# Are PnC adventure games on iOS and mobile platforms the future? **URL:** \ **Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\ **Created:** [June 4, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695 "2017-06-04T13:17:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Gffp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/gffp/32/12183_2.png) [@Gffp](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Gffp)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/81 "2017-06-06T14:39:15Z")
If only the mind behind the development of that operating system and related devices was still here so he could tell us what he thinks about it… But, hey! Wait a moment! Actually there was an encounter between him and Ron Gilbert, and you’ll be surprised to know about the argument of their chat… > **[Meeting Steve Jobs](https://grumpygamer.com/meeting_steve_jobs)** > > Ron Gilbert's often incoherent and bitter ramblings about the Game Industry Obviously I’m on Gilbert’s side, that’s needless to say… Anyway, it seems that many users here in the forums feel that iPads in particular will be ideal to play TWP, and I think that too!!!:delores: There was some chat about the argument also there: > [@iOS release date?](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/ios-release-date/246/36): > > I definitely will. It will be much easier for me to replay with my free time using an iPad. ---
**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/82 "2017-06-06T14:53:06Z")
> [@Gffp](#): > > P. S. Obviously I’m on Gilbert’s side, that’s needless to say… Mhhh, let´s see. Games Ron Gilbert were involved in include Maniac Mansion, The Secret Of Monkey Island, The Cave and Thimbleweed Park. Games that Steve Jobs were involved in: ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/1X/393d31583ed65bdf0b18ebce30a576285b5134e8.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gffp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/gffp/32/12183_2.png) [@Gffp](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Gffp)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/83 "2017-06-06T15:00:41Z")
Hey! Don’t you underestimate the story of John Ra(i)mbo(w) and how he escaped his imprisonment and torture suffered by lapidation that costed him two teeth!!! ---
**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/84 "2017-06-06T15:04:45Z")
> [@Gffp](#): > > John Ra(i)mbo(w) On the game over screen instead of a “continue” you get to select [“NOTHING IS OVER!!!”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahts98kT_fQ) ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/85 "2017-06-06T15:29:05Z")
> [@Sushi](#): > > I think that is the only acceptable -from a consumer POV - way to sell it. As soon as a developer starts offering skins or power-ups or any other optional in-app purchases, it very quickly smells like a rip-off. Just because it reminds of millions of freemium with infinite “box of gems” purchases out there that try to get you addicted and lure you into micro-transactioning over 100$ for what is basically a crappy game. That’s not something you want in a PnC adventure game. +1 Exactly what you said. With one exception: for a novel, it makes total sense to sell it at 30$ with illustrations and at 15$ with text only. For a game like TWP, you could sell it without speech at 9$ and with speech at 19$. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/86 "2017-06-06T17:47:27Z")
> [@Sushi](#): > > They do not change the story. I haven’t voted to change the story. Just to sell optional parts as a separate DLC. > [@seguso](#): > > If they want to do other 2d adventure games in pixel art, I think they should. Why are you thinking this? At least I would like to play PnC adventures on a PC. Beside that, you would lose the revenues from Steam. > [@seguso](#): > > And by focusing on android and IOS, they could cut other costs. Ehm… Which costs do you think of? > [@seguso](#): > > would so much graphic detail be necessary? But you know that a modern iPhone has a higher resolution then some displays for the PC? 😉 > [@seguso](#): > > One of them being that BS2 sucked bad. 🙂 It was so boring that I just stopped playing back then. But to know that, you have to buy it first. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigRedButton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/bigredbutton/32/212_2.png) [@BigRedButton](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/BigRedButton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/87 "2017-06-06T17:50:08Z")
Or you can install ScummVM and play your Lucasfilm favorites. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/88 "2017-06-06T17:59:53Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > But you know that a modern iPhone has a higher resolution then some displays for the PC? yeah, but if the screen size is small, you can increase the resolution as much as you want, it makes almost no difference. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/89 "2017-06-07T12:27:16Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > yeah, but if the screen size is small, you can increase the resolution as much as you want, it makes almost no difference. Okaaaay… Then why do we need 4K displays? ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/90 "2017-06-07T12:46:05Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Then why do we need 4K displays? because they aren’t small? (I said “if the screen size is small…”) ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/91 "2017-06-07T18:07:26Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > because they aren’t small? (I said “if the screen size is small…”) The “Xperia Z5 Premium” has a 4K display. I would consider 5,5 inch as small: > **[Sony Mobile Phones](https://electronics.sony.com/c/mobile)** > > Discover our Sony Xperia Android smartphone selection. Pre-order our new models ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/92 "2017-06-07T18:11:05Z")
Ok, why do think you need a 4k resolution on such a small screen? ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/93 "2017-06-07T18:11:49Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > Ok, why do think you need a 4k resolution on such a small screen? That was my question to you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/94 "2017-06-07T18:12:19Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > That was my question to you. I don’t think we need them 🙂 I don’t think you’ll notice the difference (or notice it but not care about it). Do you? ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/95 "2017-06-07T18:21:43Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > I don’t think you’ll notice the difference. Do you? That depends on the apps, graphics, the videos and the pixels per inch. 🙂 As a developer you have to care about the resolution and - also the pixels per inch. In most cases you can’t just “blow” the whole graphics up to 4K. Especially on “HiDPI” devices. You can try it yourself: Run an old app in Windows 10 on a hi-res display. The menu items will be so small that you can’t touch or click them properly. Then scale the app with the scaling function in Windows. The result looks like crap. So in most cases you have to scale the graphics in a clever way. Or in other words: You can’t increase the resolution as much as you want. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nor\_Treblig](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/nor_treblig/32/216_2.png) [@Nor\_Treblig](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Nor_Treblig)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/96 "2017-06-07T20:23:37Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > Ok, why do think you need a 4k resolution on such a small screen? The only use case I think of is using it as VR display, i.e. mounting the phone in front of your eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/97 "2017-06-08T14:15:33Z")
That’s one case. With a higher resolution the graphics are looking “crisper”. So you don’t need anti-aliasing techniques (in the best case). With the 4K resolution you can play UHD videos without the need so scale them (down). ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/98 "2017-06-10T03:08:02Z")
> [@DZ-Jay](#): > > You make your optional IAP so compelling, that even if they are optional, people will flock to buy them. Actually I think that optional IAP can be compelling enough to motivate people to spend a few bucks. I would prefer not to use Thimbleweed Park as an example, because I would never use a freemium model on TWP but it’s the first example that comes to my mind: an un-censoring option for Ransome would be compelling enough to motivate people to buy it, in my opinion. Would it change the essence of the game? Probably yes, but it wouldn’t make the game a bad game and it would not alienate most of the PnC “purists”. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/99 "2017-06-10T03:14:49Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Then why do we need 4K displays? If we are talking about 4K displayes on smartphones or, more generally, for small screens, then most people don’t really _need_ 4K displays. We have reached the point in which the continuously increasing quantity of pixels on small screens is mainly a marketing tool, not a necessity. ---
**Author:** ![Caven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Caven](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Caven)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695/100 "2017-06-10T06:24:49Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > > [@Someone](#): > > > > Then why do we need 4K displays? > > If we are talking about 4K displayes on smartphones or, more generally, for small screens, then most people don’t really _need_ 4K displays. We have reached the point in which the continuously increasing quantity of pixels on small screens is mainly a marketing tool, not a necessity. I remember reading somewhere that many east Asian languages benefit from very high resolutions due to the visual complexity of the characters in those languages. [Previous page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/are-pnc-adventure-games-on-ios-and-mobile-platforms-the-future/695.md?page=6)