# Home-brew Tools

**URL:** https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649
**Category:** Development/Design
**Created:** [May 26, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649 "2017-05-26T16:24:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/61 "2018-06-11T16:07:28Z")

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Interesting choice. I also, long ago, thought of Qt as a base. I gave up 😛 I’m not sure Qt is a good choice for that, but I’m curious 🙂 keep us up to date.

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### Author: ![thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/thomas/32/2276_2.png) [@thomas](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/thomas)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/62 "2018-06-11T19:14:56Z")

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VoltAir is a game developed by Google in 2014 and uses Qt 5/C++/JavaScript.

> **[Google Labs VoltAir Game Built with Qt - Qt Blog](http://blog.qt.io/blog/2014/07/21/google-labs-voltair-game-built-with-qt/)**
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> As the dog days of summer carry on, we at Digia, Qt are swatting down flies, mosquitoes and bees while we fan ourselves in the unusual summer heat currently striking Scandinavia … in Oslo … at least. Meanwhile, on a cool note, the Fun Propulsion Labs...

[http://google.github.io/VoltAir/doc/main/html/index.html](http://google.github.io/VoltAir/doc/main/html/index.html)

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### Author: ![larpon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/larpon/32/12426_2.png) [@larpon](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/larpon)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/63 "2018-06-11T21:29:27Z")

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If ‘long ago’ was the Qt 4.8 days - I wouldn’t blame anyone for blacklisting it for game development 😛 Qt 5 is a different story. There is always pros and cons and I might make the shift to Godot next time. But declarative programming is really awesome in many aspects of making a game. Including property bindings so you get rid of update functions everywhere.

I can’t speak for Qt and 3D though - it’s getting mixed feedback from what I can read. Nor am I sure it’s good for just any 2D game type. I all depends I guess.

So far it fit my needs 🙂 I’ll keep you updated

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### Author: ![larpon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/larpon/32/12426_2.png) [@larpon](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/larpon)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/64 "2018-06-11T21:38:17Z")

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Yup. I’ve looked through VoltAir’s code a few times. It’s very C++ oriented (which is not a bad thing in regard to performance). I’m not sure the Qt C++ additions (moc, signal/slot etc.) make a big difference when it comes to game programming - it’s the declarative QML language and the fairly fast default renderer that made me jump on board

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### Author: ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2018, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/65 "2018-08-27T06:46:27Z")

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I’ve just discovered, on the AGS forum, that a user made a “Tumbleweed interface”… 🙂  
[http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=54762.0](http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=54762.0)  
 ![immagine](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/8/8d38c117e207e15f37cc5db9a7faf491c15a611f.png)

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### Author: ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/66 "2018-08-27T16:47:58Z")

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What makes Tumbleweed different from, I don’t know, Monkey Island 2? Just the look of the font?

(Was it Fate of Atlantis that went 6-verbs first? But the order’s like in MI2 iirc.)

Edit: never mind, should’ve just read the topic:

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> It just means the verb and hotspot name follow the mouse cursor instead of showing up in a dedicated “action bar”

Was there no 6-verb LucasArts game that did that previously? Just the ones that moved on to different UX?

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### Author: ![Nor\_Treblig](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/nor_treblig/32/216_2.png) [@Nor\_Treblig](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Nor_Treblig)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/67 "2018-08-27T19:06:45Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> > It just means the verb and hotspot name follow the mouse cursor

I hope there is an option to disable this…

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### Author: ![LostTrainDude](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/losttraindude/32/3681_2.png) [@LostTrainDude](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LostTrainDude)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/68 "2018-09-26T16:45:11Z")

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Unless it is made differently (didn’t test this specific template with AGS, yet), you can simply edit the code that binds the GUI containing the text label to the cursor and set it so to have a static X/Y position on the screen.

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### Author: ![CiacioZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@CiacioZ](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/CiacioZ)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/69 "2020-10-29T13:21:19Z")

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Sorry to revive this old thread but I found this intresting engine and I wanna share it with you.  
The engine seems very complete. The main feature that I notice is the “scenario editor” so you can focus on the narrative flow in a visual way. I haven’t try it but it seem very innovative!

This is the link of the site: [https://www.seccia.com/age/](https://www.seccia.com/age/)

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### Author: ![LogicDeLuxe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/logicdeluxe/32/15335_2.png) [@LogicDeLuxe](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LogicDeLuxe)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/70 "2020-10-29T15:03:53Z")

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I’d say, software like Adventure Game Studio or Visionaire Studio have the great benefit of being multi platform.

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### Author: ![CiacioZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@CiacioZ](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/CiacioZ)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/71 "2020-10-29T16:51:29Z")

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I know, and I agree, multiplatform is a great feature.  
The one I mentioned above is multiplatform too 😉

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### Author: ![LogicDeLuxe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/logicdeluxe/32/15335_2.png) [@LogicDeLuxe](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LogicDeLuxe)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/72 "2020-10-29T19:55:07Z")

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I see, it mentions

> You can compile games for Windows, UWP, macOS, iOS, tvOS, Android, WebGL and Linux.

The tools on the other hand seem to be Windows only, as it only mentions

> **DOWNLOAD AGE**  
> FOR WINDOWS 10

It’s only for Windows 10 on Steam, too.

So basically, it’s not an issue for the gamer, but might be one for the creator.

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### Author: ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/73 "2020-10-29T21:30:02Z")

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> [@LogicDeLuxe](#):
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> The tools on the other hand seem to be Windows only,

But isn’t that valid for AGS too?

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### Author: ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/74 "2020-10-30T11:39:48Z")

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There are unofficial AGS ports, especially the one Wadjet Eye uses for Mac. The code is available, but you have to build it yourself.

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### Author: ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/75 "2020-10-31T11:19:20Z")

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> [@CiacioZ](#):
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> found this intresting engine and I wanna share it with you.

Thanks for the link! As I programmer I don’t mind AGS… this Age program looks like it uses drag and drop code blocks like Scratch (which they teach to kids in elementary school now)

The real problem trying to develop a little game with a few rooms for fun is the graphic art/animation. It’s so damn time-consuming! I would have to quit my day job and practice round the clock to even get 1% as good as Gary or Mark.

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### Author: ![CiacioZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@CiacioZ](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/CiacioZ)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/76 "2020-11-02T11:06:51Z")

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You centered the point, there are tons of engines to develop every type of game but they’re barely useful if you cannot put together a nice gfx/animation.  
Tools that can help in that way are very few and it would be awesome if there were more.  
It’s frustrating to have an idea and cannot concretize it due to lack of skills and the collaborations in the hobby world are hard to find and keep active over the time.

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### Author: ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/77 "2020-11-02T13:09:20Z")

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> [@CiacioZ](#):
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> Tools that can help in that way are very few

Do you have (an) example(s)? I only know of tools like [Synfig Studio](https://www.synfig.org/), that are made for professional artists.

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### Author: ![CiacioZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@CiacioZ](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/CiacioZ)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/78 "2020-11-03T11:33:27Z")

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I know

- [http://www.makehumancommunity.org/](http://www.makehumancommunity.org/)
- [https://mb-lab-community.github.io/MB-Lab.github.io/](https://mb-lab-community.github.io/MB-Lab.github.io/)

that helps to create a 3d human models without in depth 3d knowledge. They are still work in progress but I think that it should be the way in future. Even for the big companies it would be much more convenient a procedural approach especially when developing an AAA title where the art impact is huge.  
I’m wondering why is not a standard approach yet. Maybe because is simplier a brute force approach instead to develop a complex procedural content generator software.

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### Author: ![Sushi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/sushi/32/163_2.png) [@Sushi](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Sushi)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/79 "2020-11-03T11:54:20Z")

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> [@yrface](#):
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> The real problem trying to develop a little game with a few rooms for fun is the graphic art/animation. It’s so damn time-consuming! I would have to quit my day job and practice round the clock to even get 1% as good as Gary or Mark.

That’s why you should have your children go to art school. 😉

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### Author: ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/home-brew-tools/649/80 "2020-11-04T10:58:55Z")

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> [@Sushi](#):
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> That’s why you should have your children go to art school. 😉

Working on it 😄

My 12 year old wants to be a video-game designer (but don’t they all?)

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