# \---- Is Ron working on a Monkey Island 3a? ---- **URL:** \ **Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\ **Created:** [May 13, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275 "2020-05-13T22:41:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/102 "2023-07-05T16:48:29Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > the texts in the backgrounds are (intentionally, I suppose) unintelligible I honestly thought the signs were all in Italian and I just didn’t know what they said 😂 Looking at it again, the text looks a little bit like the sort of text AI art generators make… And in the first shot, the road looks kinda like a real road, like the texture of it… maybe someone fed a real shot of a theme park into AI and told it to make it look like MI2? AI would explain how it’s so professional looking/detailed… but then the inside stuff doesn’t really look like AI to me 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/103 "2023-07-05T16:54:56Z")
> [@Paul](#): > > Looking at it again, the text looks a little bit like the sort of text AI art generators make… Oh, right… 😐 How stupid of me to assume that _humans_ were involved… ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/104 "2023-07-05T16:58:36Z")
😬 When I tried to ask DALL-E to do that, (do a background in the style of monkey island 2), you don’t get anything like that… ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/105 "2023-07-05T17:04:38Z")
Someone on Discord pointed out that the soundtrack is from Full Throttle. So it’s quite possible that some guy used the Delores engine, some AI like Stable Diffusion and ripped music to speed up the development of a human-level adventure game gem. 😐 > [@seguso](#): > > DALL-E to do that DALL-E is now considered one of the worst and outdated models. Today, Midjourney takes the cake, but Stable Diffusion is also good. ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/106 "2023-07-05T17:25:56Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > Today, Midjourney takes the cake, but Stable Diffusion is also good. I think with one of them (maybe Stable Diffusion), you can put it on your own computer and train it on any art you want. So you could get all the MI2 backgrounds and train it on those… also I think the original non-pixelated MI2 backgrounds are out there somewhere, could train it on those and then pixelate the art it gave you afterwards (as I think AI still makes odd-looking pixels). ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/107 "2023-07-05T17:26:31Z")
Anyway, if it was done with Midjourney or Stable Diffusion, I have to say that it takes some expertise to instruct the AI to make all the backgrounds have the same style. It’s quite easy to get very different images that would’t feel “organic” when used as backgrounds for an adventure game. ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/108 "2023-07-05T17:29:56Z")
Now that you point it out, of course it’s AI art… look at these lampposts. They are incoherent: ![immagine](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/0/013325fc721e4ca0adb1ae8d8d34c0f1720171eb.jpeg) And what is this? A rope ladder cut in half, hanging in the sky? [![](https://i.imgur.com/YZg0cHA.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/YZg0cHA.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/109 "2023-07-05T17:30:49Z")
> [@Paul](#): > > also I think the original non-pixelated MI2 backgrounds are out there somewhere Yes, but did you feel that the backgrounds in this game were similar to Chan’s backgrounds? They reming me of other games, actually. Some recent Simon the Sorcerer games, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/110 "2023-07-05T17:33:25Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > look at these lampposts. They are incoherent: Right. Which motivates me to exclude Midjourney. ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/111 "2023-07-05T17:35:09Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > to speed up the development of a human-level adventure game gem. Yeah, the big issue for previous fan games was usually the art, as you’d need a super good artist to spend hundreds of hours to get new, good art, and it’d be expensive… otherwise it had to either be crappy art or backgrounds from an existing game. So maybe we’re entering a new era of actually great looking fan games… > [@LowLevel](#): > > did you feel that the backgrounds in this game were similar to Chan’s backgrounds? Not really, but they’re still very impressive, they almost seemed like a slight evolution, something from 94 perhaps… but I think AI could make something closer to Chan’s if the fan-game developer wanted that. > [@seguso](#): > > Now that you point it out, of course it’s AI art… look at these lampposts. They are incoherent: Haha, I didn’t notice that at all… I still would love to play this game, even with the mistakes! I really like the Big Whoop map. ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/112 "2023-07-05T17:38:55Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > Which motivates me to exclude Midjourney. Exclude from what?🙂 If retouching such details is all I have to do, I can make an adventure game like Monkey Island in one month! (Oh, you mean it can’t have been made by Midjourney 😛 ) ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/113 "2023-07-05T17:44:23Z")
> [@Paul](#): > > So maybe we’re entering a new era of actually great looking fan games… I hope so. Simple graphics were one of the main reasons I was never interested in fan games. I would play good looking adventure games regardless of who/what did the art. Mimicking a style, fixing the few errors, and reducing the resolution in post-production seems like a pretty streamlined process to get flashy adventure games in a lot less time. > [@seguso](#): > > Exclude from what? I don’t think that Midjourney would make those mistakes, so I was excluding it from the list of the AIs that could have been used. > [@seguso](#): > > If retouching such details is all I have to do, I can make an adventure game like Monkey Island in one month! Do it. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/114 "2023-07-05T17:47:03Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > I can make an adventure game like Monkey Island in one month! Also remember to do a weekly blog detailing the process (you can get ChatGPT to write the blog posts) ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/115 "2023-07-05T17:54:38Z")
> [@Paul](#): > > Also remember to do a weekly blog detailing the process (you can get ChatGPT to write the blog posts) No, I have to publish a podcast with a robotic voice. Otherwise, it’s pointless! ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/116 "2023-07-05T17:56:29Z")
Excellent, you can have Ron, Obama, and Michael Jackson at your weekly stand-up meetings to discuss development ---
**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/117 "2023-07-05T19:01:59Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > And what is this? A rope ladder cut in half, hanging in the sky? A couple of LED light strings? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/118 "2023-07-05T19:11:47Z")
That staircase looks a bit dangerous ![MI3aStair2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/7/772530e7f5f68fe7a7ff0ce44bcc2caa9c8476d8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/119 "2023-07-05T20:19:04Z")
> [@Paul](#): > > That staircase looks a bit dangerous LOL. And it has a curtain instead of a handrail. How could we not notice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/120 "2023-07-05T20:29:08Z")
We were young and naïve back then, 7 hours ago. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275/121 "2023-07-05T20:38:27Z")
I did notice the funny staircase but to associate it with an AI requires a kind of intelligence that, as someone who daily uses AIs for work, I don’t have. [Previous page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/is-ron-working-on-a-monkey-island-3a/4275.md?page=7)