# "Metaphors" in Story? (Full Spoilers)

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**Created:** [April 5, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532 "2018-04-05T03:34:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![brianruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@brianruff](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/brianruff)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/1 "2018-04-05T03:34:03Z")

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I’m playing through the game again after reading all the fan theories about the story and what’s been interesting is each person seems to have their own version of what actually happened _that fateful night in Thimbleweed Park_. I’m really starting to appreciate the story the more I dive into it. The real mystery has been revolving around the role between the game devs, the AI, and Chuck’s role.

My take is still vague but coming together:

- Chuck figured out it was a video game so he wanted to escape the loop.
- He got trapped in the computer AI where his personality got meshed with the AI
- The AI or the game developers are capable of possessing people’s body (possessing Willie to kill Boris) or creating carbon copies of any character (Sheriff, Coroner, Chuck)
- Chuck is innocent and the evil AI (representing the game developers??) is responsible for Franklin’s death, Boris’ death? I’m a bit lost still… Help!

What do you think Mr. Gilbert meant when he said the key to understanding the story is to step back and look at the story more metaphorically?

Do you guys have any pointers on what clues I should be paying attention to? I’m thinking that Chuck’s diary and the text adventure game are the most important. Any others?

Is there anybody out there that really feels they have a definitive version of exactly what happened in the story? Or do you think the story was purposefully abstract to allow for people to make up their own version?

Would love Mr. Gilbert or one of the other writers to help us understand better.

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/2 "2018-04-05T10:10:29Z")

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Hi Brian, welcome to the forum! 🙂

I’m not convinced that Willie kiled Boris. I think everything was set up to make it look like he did it, but I don’t think that he committed the murder - possessed or otherwise.

> [@brianruff](#):
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> Do you guys have any pointers on what clues I should be paying attention to? I’m thinking that Chuck’s diary and the text adventure game are the most important. Any others?

I can’t remember the details of it, but I found the manual in the library very interesting.  
For other things that may help you develop your theory, have you tried the following?

- Exploring the alley by the diner in Part 2.
- Leaving either Ray or Reyes to their own devices in Part 4, for at least ten minutes.

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/3 "2018-04-05T14:45:30Z")

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> [@brianruff](#):
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> Is there anybody out there that really feels they have a definitive version of exactly what happened in the story?

Yes. But if I would tell this, Ron would tar and feather me. 😉

@brianruff: You have already read the theories in this forum _and_ in the Dev blog?

> [@brianruff](#):
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> Or do you think the story was purposefully abstract to allow for people to make up their own version?

Ron has stated (somewhere) that you can find answers in the game.

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/4 "2018-04-05T15:01:41Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> Ron has stated (somewhere) that you can find answers in the game.

And these are the 10 questions @RonGilbert gave as a hint to unlock all the secrets of Thimbleweed Park.

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1. Pay particular attention in the beginning of the game: at least two clues are revealed before the credits.

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1. 

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Notice appearances of the red lampshade.

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2. 

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Can you hear the title of the game that Mmucus Flem is auditioning devs for? Is it mentioned again?

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3. 

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An accident is a terrible event… notice the location of the accident.

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4. 

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Who gives a key, and why?

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5. 

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Notice the ballon, the ashtray, the coffee cup.

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6. 

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What is felt, realized and gathered at Thimblecon ´87?

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7. 

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Did talent alone help Delores?

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8. 

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Note the occurrences surrounding the man behind S&D Diner.

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Where is Uncle Chuck?

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**Author:** ![Sushi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/sushi/32/163_2.png) [@Sushi](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Sushi)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/5 "2018-04-05T15:06:12Z")

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Source?  
And : “now I am even more confused!”

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/6 "2018-04-05T16:20:45Z")

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The source seems to be David Lynch. 😛

[http://www.mulholland-drive.net/analysis/analysis11.htm](http://www.mulholland-drive.net/analysis/analysis11.htm)

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/7 "2018-04-05T16:35:32Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> The source seems to be David Lynch. 😛

Ah. Well I’m glad you told me before I went looking for all these things in the game!! 😅

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/8 "2018-04-05T16:36:19Z")

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I know, I can be a cheeky bugger sometimes! 😜

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/9 "2018-04-05T16:37:16Z")

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@brianruff First rule of the forum: don’t trust Milan. 😉

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**Author:** ![Ema](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ema/32/14101_2.png) [@Ema](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Ema)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/10 "2018-04-05T16:45:11Z")

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…said the easter egg Lady.😛

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/11 "2018-04-05T16:45:38Z")

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Find out _when_ to trust me and when _not_. That´s way harder, but I just love to challenge people´s critical thinking sometimes. 😉

> [@Ema](#):
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> …said the easter egg Lady.😛

Pulling legs exclusively on april 1st is just too predictable. 😁

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/12 "2018-04-05T16:51:26Z")

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> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> @brianruff First rule of the forum: don’t trust Milan. 😉

Well, his “10 questions” aren’t that silly. 😉

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/13 "2018-04-05T16:53:00Z")

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As has been correctly spotted it´s for Mullholland Dr. actually but they don´t help too much with that movie either. 🙃

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/14 "2018-04-05T16:56:14Z")

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Yes, but TWP is very “David Lynchesk”. So your questions (could) apply for TWP too. And AFAIR Ron gave similar hints here in the forum.

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**Author:** ![brianruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@brianruff](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/brianruff)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/metaphors-in-story-full-spoilers/2532/15 "2018-04-06T00:01:27Z")

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I didn’t find a lot of theories in the Dev blog, just this forum.

> [@Someone](#):
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> Yes

I’ll have to play through again and see if it makes complete sense second time around.
