# Monkey Island Fan translation

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**Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\
**Created:** [January 20, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277 "2018-01-20T07:34:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/121 "2018-11-11T18:26:02Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> Sorry, I can’t remember at the moment.

Me neither, but the reason is simply that it doesn´t work as a pun since file (Feile) and file (Akte) don´t sound alike in german.

If it were up to me I´d probably play on the german word for “violet” which is “veilchen” and he could probably suggest to look in the Melée woods for it.

But again I don´t remember if that is what Boris did (think not though).

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/122 "2018-11-11T18:27:32Z")

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In such cases Boris sometimes used a completely other, German pun.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/123 "2018-11-11T18:32:48Z")

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yeah, well I just wanted to know what that pun was - if any  
In Dutch, the words “vijl” and “dossier” are also totally unrelated  
And the only word that comes to mind that closes resembles “vijl” (file) is (horny)… so no 😂

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/124 "2018-11-11T18:32:48Z")

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Sure, but in this case it´s about a specific item. I really can´t remember because it hasn´t occured to me to ask that guy for the file in a very long time (because I know he doesn´t have it. :))

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/125 "2018-11-11T19:20:44Z")

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I think I will go with “veiling” (sale/auction), which is pretty close to the plural of a file …“vijlen”.

It would play out something like:  
“I am looking for some (vijlen) auction?”  
“The auction of used ships at Stan’s? Or the auction of stol… I mean… lost & found items over at the Sheriff’s?”  
"No, the metal raspy kind of files (vijlen)

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/126 "2018-11-12T01:12:27Z")

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> [@Sushi](#):
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> How is this line translated in German?  
> It is said by the Citizen of Melee Island who sells stuff on the street corner (the one with the parrot on his shoulder) when you ask him if he has any files (the raspy metal kind)…  
> “Financial files on Stan’s Shipyard? Personnel files for the Sheriff’s Department?”

_English:_  
**Guybrush:** Do you have a file?

**Citizen:** Financial files on Stan’s Shipyard?  
**Citizen:** Personnel files for the Sheriff’s Department?

**Guybrush:** Actually, I meant the raspy metal kind.

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_German:_  
**Guybrush:** Haben Sie eine Feile?

**Citizen:** Pfeile? Das ist ein Piratenspiel, kein Western.  
**Citizen:** Oder meintest du eine Nagel-Feile?

**Guybrush:** Fast, vielleicht eine große stabile, zum Öffnen von Schlössern?

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_translated from German:_  
**Guybrush:** Do you have a file?

**Citizen:** Arrows? This is a pirate game, not a Western. [The citizen misheard ‘Feile’ (file) as ‘Pfeile’ (arrows)]  
**Citizen:** Or did you mean a nail file?

**Guybrush:** Close, maybe a big, solid one, for opening locks?

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_Italian:_  
**Guybrush:** Hai una lima?

**Citizen:** Ho limaccio, pasticci finanziari sul Cantiere Navale di Stan.  
**Citizen:** Ho limaccio sul Dipartimento dello Sceriffo.

**Guybrush:** In realtà intendevo una striscia di metallo ruvida.

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_Google translated from Italian:_  
**Guybrush:** Do you have a file?

**Citizen:** I have lasso, financial messes on the Stan Shipyard.  
**Citizen:** I work on the Sheriff’s Department.

**Guybrush:** Actually, I meant a strip of rough metal.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/127 "2018-11-12T06:06:03Z")

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> [@Sushi](#):
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> when you ask him if he has any files (the raspy metal kind)…  
> “Financial files on Stan’s Shipyard? Personnel files for the Sheriff’s Department?”

Whoa, I had no idea. I’ve never played MI in English, and now I don’t remember how it is in Italian, but given the horrible history of translations and adaptations in Italy, I wouldn’t be surprised if they did not understand it was a joke.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/128 "2018-11-12T12:57:10Z")

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> [@Guga](#):
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> I don’t remember how it is in Italia

I’ve added the Italian version, but maybe you have a better English translation than Google…

Looking at wiktionary ([limaccio](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/limaccio)) the Italian translation doesn’t look that bad!

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/129 "2018-12-14T16:59:06Z")

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> [@Nor\_Treblig](#):
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> **Citizen:** Pfeile? Das ist ein Piratenspiel, kein Western.  
> **Citizen:** Oder meintest du eine Nagel-Feile?

That could work in Dutch.

Also, I realize this is a month late for @Sushi but maybe something stupid along these lines?

Heb je een goede rasp?  
Wat zeg je, Stan z’n aktentas? De personeelsbestanden in de kast?

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/130 "2018-12-14T17:14:09Z")

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Dutch never ceases to amaze me in that I got at least half of that! 🙂

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/131 "2018-12-14T17:26:51Z")

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- rasp = Raspel I believe, so you got that
- Aktentasche is probably proper German?
- kast = Schrank, so that doesn’t quite work, but Kasten is a related word that means something like “case” if I’m not mistaken.  
The shared meaning/etymology might be “something that is square”?

tl;dr something like this:

Do you have a rasp/grater?[1]  
What did you say? Stan’s briefcase/file bag? The personnel files in the cabinet?[2]

1. `Grater` can be more or less a synonym for `file`. The proper English term in the context of woodworking is probably `surform` (surface former), but English also has a word `rasp` meaning `coarse file`.
2. Except now it’s the word `cabinet` that’s similar to `bag` and `grater`.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/132 "2018-12-24T09:39:54Z")

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If anyone out there knows how to swap the verb positions, the translation of Monkey Island to Dutch will be finished just in time for Christmas.

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/d/dd58d26190ce361eb917dea898d13a9a7000fde7.png)

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/133 "2018-12-24T11:15:23Z")

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That’s good news.  
Why do you need to swap verbs?  
And… when will the talkie version available? 🕶

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/134 "2018-12-24T11:21:03Z")

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If you are able to do that, I suggest you to write only the verbs in the grid, while adding the prepositions (_naar_, _met_) to the name of the object when building the command sentence, thus obtaining a more balanced composition of the verb grid.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/135 "2018-12-24T11:27:18Z")

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> [@Ema](#):
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> Why do you need to swap verbs?

Probably because _Gebruik_ doesn’t fit where it’s currently located but would if you swapped it with _Neem_, plus it’d look more balanced.

Hanteer, pas toe, benut… well, I guess _benut_ might fit but I’m sure @Sushi rejected it for sounding slightly odd. 😉

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/136 "2018-12-24T12:17:34Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> Probably because _Gebruik_ doesn’t fit

Oh, I see.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/138 "2018-12-24T14:37:53Z")

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> [@Ema](#):
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> Why do you need to swap verbs?

because the K of “gebruik” is behind the inventory scroll bar

> [@Gffp](#):
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> If you are able to do that, I suggest you to write only the verbs in the grid, while adding the prepositions ( _naar_ , _met_ ) to the name of the object when building the command sentence, thus obtaining a more balanced composition of the verb grid.

because the prepositions are there in English too. (Talk TO, Look AT)  
If I could/had to hack the engine, I’d just change the positions

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/139 "2018-12-25T00:25:28Z")

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![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/7/79e2594c49984eea4f98c4c8c37a30328102daa7.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/140 "2019-01-02T23:31:54Z")

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Finally I got those darned engine hard-coded prepositions translated too! (plus I moved the verbs around)

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/e/e1174a255ced931ecfa2a830e3ef751cedb43b89.png)

Also here, the verbs are finally in the right places  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/9/9d32df91a38d1a7b908b84905e0a848231e5f316.png)

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-fan-translation/2277/141 "2019-04-07T11:04:00Z")

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Ahem, that Garfield?

 ![immagine](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/d/d69a8e04e887d883b823ce0f1d48563a35453a0e.png)

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