# Physicists say that we actually live in Thimbleweed Park? (spoilers!)

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**Created:** [June 20, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830 "2018-06-20T13:02:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![PiecesOfKate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/piecesofkate/32/93_2.png) [@PiecesOfKate](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/PiecesOfKate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/21 "2018-06-20T18:34:59Z")

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There’s just something that really frightens me about it. It’s something to do with existing, and then suddenly not.

> [@Someone](#):
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> I am not sure if I would like to stay here _forever_.

I would.

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> Especially if all of my relatives and friends are gone.

Well yeah, but I’m working on the basis that if I didn’t die, no one else would either.

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**Author:** ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/22 "2018-06-20T19:03:44Z")

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Guys, the thought of having to die is always haunting me. Now on TWP Forum too. Darn.

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**Author:** ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/23 "2018-06-20T19:14:49Z")

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Now, for a more serious post.

Where were we before we were born? We spent an eternity not existing, did it bother us? Did it feel like a lot of time?

I suppose dying is something like that. You don’t even notice. Whenever I think of this, however, I begin to feel fear. I can’t even comprehend the idea of not existing anymore.

I like to think that I might get reincarnated someday. I mean… what am I? Why do I see, hear, feel stuff? It’s because my brain processes the signals, but why do I see things of this body and not things from another body? Why don’t I just work as a machine does, like a self-driving car that uses signals from a webcam to steer but has no conscious “vision” of what the camera receives? Why can’t I, as a conscious entity, be someday get “coupled” with another body, maybe centuries from now?

But my ideal afterlife would be a mix of being a ghost (I’d love to travel the world and see how my children and grandchildren will be doing) and having all the answers. You know, like a book of answers where you can ask “how many liters of coke did I drink in all my life”.

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**Author:** ![kaiman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@kaiman](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/kaiman)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/24 "2018-06-20T19:20:00Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> Why not? I’ve played Sim City 2000 several times. If you have more CPU power everyone could simulate a whole world easily. The software would be there - and is already partially available.

That’s sort of depressing. If I am to live in a simulation, I wouldn’t want it to be a mass-market one run by some random kiddo on their parents quantum computer. Let it be at least something handcrafted, scientific please!

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> For example your brain has already made a decision while you still ponder.

That rings a bell. Though _decision_ still sounds like there could have been multiple outcomes.

I am also well aware how easy it is to manipulate people, so yeah, free will as it is commonly understood might not be a thing ☹.

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> This is a _simulation_ , not a holodeck or The Matrix.

When I say “I”, of course I do not refer to myself as an actual person, but as the simulated “thing” that’s “living” in the theorized computer and is only made to believe that there is a whole universe (and other people) around.

Therefore, the question remains, how detailed is the simulation? Is it just providing the inputs I directly perceive (like a 1st person game I might play), or does it indeed simulate distinguishable agents that believe in their own existence and express their simulated thoughts on virtual simulated forums for other agents to take in? (Dwarf Fortress is perhaps the closest example I can currently think of)

I guess the theories are postulating a very, very complex simulation; in the end, it might be indistinguishable from reality, in which case we aren’t really all the wiser.

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**Author:** ![Gffp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/gffp/32/12183_2.png) [@Gffp](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Gffp)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/25 "2018-06-20T20:03:56Z")

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> [@Guga](#):
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> Guys, the thought of having to die is always haunting me. Now on TWP Forum too. Darn.

_Et in Arcadia ego_.  
(Note how Arcadia resounds of a modern meaning linked to arcades…)

> [@Guga](#):
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> Where were we before we were born? We spent an eternity not existing, did it bother us? Did it feel like a lot of time?
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> I suppose dying is something like that. You don’t even notice. Whenever I think of this, however, I begin to feel fear. I can’t even comprehend the idea of not existing anymore.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7BpY6I9ZR3A/maxresdefault.jpg "When the Child was a Child...") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BpY6I9ZR3A)

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**Author:** ![kaiman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@kaiman](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/kaiman)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/26 "2018-06-20T20:11:24Z")

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> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> There’s just something that really frightens me about it. It’s something to do with existing, and then suddenly not.

For me, it’s really the transition that is most frightening. And the fact that I might have to go before @RonGilbert reveals the secret of Monkey Island.

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**Author:** ![Ema](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ema/32/14101_2.png) [@Ema](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Ema)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/27 "2018-06-20T22:28:53Z")

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I could have written this very same post.

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**Author:** ![TaarakVakil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/taarakvakil/32/13203_2.png) [@TaarakVakil](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/TaarakVakil)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/physicists-say-that-we-actually-live-in-thimbleweed-park-spoilers/2830/28 "2018-06-21T02:01:42Z")

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We are in Kalyug. The end of simulation.

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