# The Ace Attorney thread (hints and impressions)

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**Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\
**Created:** [June 28, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852 "2018-06-28T08:39:33Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/141 "2021-05-08T14:13:19Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> (during this lockdown time, I’m watching all the episodes of Columbo)

👍

I can’t get enough of that series. 😃

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/142 "2021-05-10T18:43:43Z")

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I played through Case 4 today. Seeing Prosecutor Blackquill was a nice surprise!

I thought the witness with multiple personalities was really interesting. But I wondered how somebody in the same situation in real life would view this character’s portrayal. Of course it’s fictional, and concepts are simplified for them to make sense to the player, but I wonder if anyone has found it to be hurtful or derogatory in any way.

I had a similar thought after the case in Dual Destinies with the “male” student who turns out to be a girl. To me it felt a bit over-simplified, given the complexities of gender identity which are talked about more nowadays. Maybe I’m analysing things too much 😅

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/143 "2021-05-11T07:56:24Z")

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> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> I thought the witness with multiple personalities was really interesting

…and the best case has to come yet… 😃

> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> But I wondered how somebody in the same situation in real life would view this character’s portrayal.

Well… have you ever seen a prosecutor with a whip in court? Have you ever seen a witness with a parrot on his shoulder in court? Just to make two examples 🙂

> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> I had a similar thought after the case in Dual Destinies with the “male” student who turns out to be a girl.

Well, don’t forget it’s a game after all, and that it has not to scare too much (PEGI 12). Maybe it’s simplified on purpose.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/144 "2021-05-11T10:16:25Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> Well… have you ever seen a prosecutor with a whip in court? Have you ever seen a witness with a parrot on his shoulder in court?

No, but that’s different to a mental disorder that people have in real life.

> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> Well, don’t forget it’s a game after all, and that it has not to scare too much (PEGI 12). Maybe it’s simplified on purpose.

Yeah, I’m sure it is. In films and TV, it’s important that a lot of thought is put into how things like this are depicted, as it can affect how these people are viewed by others in real life. I think videogames need to take care with this too.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/145 "2021-05-12T12:57:26Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> Well… have you ever seen a prosecutor with a whip in court?

Don’t forget she’s 13.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/146 "2021-05-13T09:09:19Z")

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**IT’S TIME!**

> <https://twitter.com/aceattorneygame/status/1392668443229540352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1392668443229540352%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https:%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F?query=https3A2F2Ftwitter.com2Faceattorneygame2Fstatus2F1392668443229540352widget=Tweet>

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/147 "2021-05-13T10:42:03Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> IT’S TIME!

Steam doesn’t seem to remember that I played Aviary Attorney.

> Is this game relevant to you?  
> This game doesn’t look like other things you’ve played in the past. As such we don’t have much information on whether or not you might be interested in it

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/148 "2021-05-13T12:01:56Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> Aviary Attorney

Come on, that’s a game built by The Pigeon Sisters during their spare time! 😃

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/149 "2021-07-30T21:37:11Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/waraumannequin/status/1420987191514341378?s=19>

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/150 "2021-08-04T00:57:17Z")

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> **[Capcom Is Asking Players If They Want a New Ace Attorney Game - IGN](https://www.ign.com/articles/new-ace-attorney-game-survey)**
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> Following the release of The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles, Capcom is asking players to give their opinions on the series – and specifically asking if they want brand new games in the series.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/151 "2021-08-05T06:57:56Z")

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The answer is YES! Until Shu Takumi is alive!

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/152 "2021-10-03T11:19:22Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/m0PGbmtdlRQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Phoenix Wright - Blue (Da Ba Dee) | Ace Attorney") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0PGbmtdlRQ)

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/153 "2021-10-17T21:38:08Z")

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OK, at 1:58 I literally LOL’ed. That is just so wrong. 🤣

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/154 "2021-10-20T18:37:55Z")

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Now that somebody has figured out how to get the cutscenes working under Linux, I started playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles. Just finished the second case, but so far it feels like it’s lacking a bit in originality. While the minutiae differ, the cases as such seem a repeat of the events from the initial game. It’s not helped by the fact that they’re also basically still tutorial land and therefore not really taxing. I assume it will only get better from here, though 🙂.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/155 "2021-10-21T08:58:37Z")

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> [@kaiman](#):
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> I assume it will only get better from here, though 🙂.

You are assuming it right.  
The first case is just for beginners, and to get acquainted with the Prosecutor Wiston Payne’s ancestor (the only prosecutor always present in the first case of every game).  
The second case is just a distraction (even if Sherlock Holmes Deductions made me laugh a lot, that’s an innovation never present in previous Ace Attorney games).

The real affair begins from the third case.

I’m currently on the 7th case (that is, the 2nd case of the “Resolve” part), and it’s thrilling, more twisted than the Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/156 "2021-10-21T17:26:54Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> The real affair begins from the third case.

Yes 🙂.

I guess it’s inevitable that they have to accommodate for new players, even if it’s the umpteenth entry in the series. That’s why a somewhat less familiar setting for the case(s) would have been nice. But it might as well have been a deliberate choice, to hearken back to the originals.

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/157 "2021-10-22T11:40:20Z")

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On a personal note: I’m currently playing the official version, on a Nintendo Switch.  
Previously, I had played the first chapter of the Great Ace Attorney in japanese, with an English patch applied. All the names were written… as expected (Sherlock Holmes instead of Herlock Sholmes, for instance) and I find the official version loses a bit of comprehension, when reading the fake name of famous people.

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/158 "2021-10-22T17:10:24Z")

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Yeah, I noticed that when watching one of the bonus videos (I guess it is the original japanese announcement trailer), where the name wasn’t mangled. I assume that some sort of trademark or other IP nonsense is to blame here. But yeah, it’s rather unfortunate.

> **From Eurogamer (spoilers)**
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> So, why rename Sherlock Holmes to Herlock Sholmes? Sherlock Holmes creator Sir Arthur Conan Doyle died in 1930, and the majority of his writing is now in the public domain. However, 10 of his stories about Sherlock Holmes remain under copyright in the US (in the UK, where copyright lasts for 70 years after an author’s death, all Holmes stories are out of copyright).
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> Because of these 10 stories that remain under copyright in the US, the use of Sherlock Holmes is tricky when it comes to anything released in the west - and Doyle’s estate seems particularly trigger-happy.

So seems like had they supplied an Italian or German translation, we could have had the proper names ☹.

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/159 "2021-10-22T17:20:15Z")

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Btw, [The Ace Attorney thread (hints and impressions) - #116 by Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/116)

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-ace-attorney-thread-hints-and-impressions/2852/160 "2021-10-25T09:01:35Z")

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Yeah. Nonetheless, the same Scarlet Study has released a patch for the PC/Steam version, to change the names back 🙂

> <https://twitter.com/ScarletStudy1/status/1432045245307531265>

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