# The official language thread

**URL:** <https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524>\
**Category:** Off-topic\
**Created:** [April 3, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524 "2018-04-03T11:14:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Festarossa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/festarossa/32/15_2.png) [@Festarossa](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Festarossa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/885 "2018-08-24T18:34:42Z")

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I used to use “BR, Arto” in all my English emails, but after the transition to new email (Google) and the fact that I could have only one signature for all languages, I had a bit of a struggle with myself, and decided to just drop all greetings. Now everyone gets only my name, title and contact information after the message. And I rather like it. It’s a Finnish way. No bullshit, just info.

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**Author:** ![Festarossa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/festarossa/32/15_2.png) [@Festarossa](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Festarossa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/886 "2018-08-24T18:43:17Z")

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The most difficult thing with emails is the word “Dear”. “Dear Guybrush”, “Dear Sir” etc. As a Finn, I would use the word “Dear” to someone who I really love and gone to hell and back with. So, using that word to contact someone I’ve never had any contact with before is a bit weird.

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/887 "2018-08-24T18:58:55Z")

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Actually, as a Brit, sometimes I find myself thinking the same thing! Normally I use “good morning/afternoon” for formal emails, and “hi” for informal ones. But the other day I started an email with “Dear”, and then immediately thought to myself:

“Hang on, does that sound too sentimental?” 😀

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/888 "2018-08-24T20:04:14Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> Yours truly … (And this is more informal?)

Usage differs a bit between the UK and the US, which is why I include this British reference work (Practical English Usage) to support the fact that it’s not:

 ![17](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/a/a38254dd4fcf9a750fa10f9991bd687cc4bf9c84.jpeg)  
 ![34](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/0/0c5e0cbc4c02e56f6e6a30f02d969b389890a0a7.jpeg)

(With people you _know_ common expressions include _With best wishes_ and _With kind regards_.)

> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> That’s correct.

Yours truly is formal (not formal formal but formal) and (kind/best) regards is on the rather informal but not quite familiar side. You interpret yours truly as informal as a Brit? Would that be because it’s common American usage?

> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> But the other day I started an email with “Dear”,

Dear _insert name_ is fine; just Dear is not. 😛

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**Author:** ![PiecesOfKate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/piecesofkate/32/93_2.png) [@PiecesOfKate](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/PiecesOfKate)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/889 "2018-08-24T20:48:31Z")

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I tend to use ‘kind regards’ or ‘best wishes’ for formal stuff. Or ‘many thanks’ if I’m asking for something.

I think ‘dear xx’ and ‘yours sincerely’ are a bit old hat these days, especially since they’re more for letter writing and most people send emails now.

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**Author:** ![Festarossa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/festarossa/32/15_2.png) [@Festarossa](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Festarossa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/890 "2018-08-24T20:57:33Z")

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My email courtesy today is to use the recipients name in greeting: “Hi John” 😄

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/891 "2018-08-24T21:25:01Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> You interpret yours truly as informal as a Brit?

Yep, but I’m not quite sure why!

> [@Frenzie](#):
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> Dear _insert name_ is fine; just Dear is not. 😛

Just Dear would sound as if you’re about to give them a lecture on why they should be doing more of the housework.

(Yeah, the opposite sentiment of my previous post, but that’s how I imagine it being said in this case 😛 )

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/892 "2018-08-24T21:28:42Z")

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Huh, I can imagine writing just dear to my wife if I were a few decades older. And not to lecture anyone. 😛

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**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/893 "2018-08-24T21:45:33Z")

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What if, instead of “kind regards”, I close my e-mail with “warmly”? It’s more confidential and less formal?

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**Author:** ![Sushi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/sushi/32/163_2.png) [@Sushi](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Sushi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/894 "2018-08-24T21:49:19Z")

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> [@Festarossa](#):
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> Now everyone gets only my name, title and contact information after the message. And I rather like it. It’s a Finnish way. No bullshit, just info.

You should add your bank account too then! 😉

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**Author:** ![Sushi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/sushi/32/163_2.png) [@Sushi](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Sushi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/895 "2018-08-24T21:54:11Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> One can never use too much smileys! 🙂 )

Insert a reply with 2000 different smileys here. I am too lazy…  
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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/896 "2018-08-25T07:04:56Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> What if, instead of “kind regards”, I close my e-mail with “warmly”? It’s more confidential and less formal?

It’s less formal, but still has a professional tone to it. You could use this when emailing colleagues.

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**Author:** ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/897 "2018-08-25T11:55:28Z")

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> [@tasse-tee](#):
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> a professional tone

‘Sup,  
This is a formal email in the futuristic year of 2027.

Later dawg,

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/898 "2018-08-25T12:23:10Z")

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> [@yrface](#):
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> > [@tasse-tee](#):
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> > a professional tone
> 
> ‘Sup,  
> This is a formal email in the futuristic year of 2027.
> 
> Later dawg,

![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/0/0b0e464c35ddd7a626ca3ef29e029238ea858c30.gif)

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/899 "2018-08-25T14:53:40Z")

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> [@yrface](#):
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> ‘Sup,  
> This is a formal email in the futuristic year of 2027.
> 
> Later dawg,

Biatch,

U kiddin m8.

Smell ya,

2057

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**Author:** ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/900 "2018-08-25T15:52:44Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> Biatch,
> 
> U kiddin m8.
> 
> Smell ya,

![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/a/a36b655e533520ca8c3422a0979d454dd88a33ba.gif)

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/901 "2018-08-26T14:19:35Z")

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This is more of a cultural question than a language one but I was just talking to @boosegoose on Twitter about that:

How many of you people had to wear school uniforms and did it depend on wheater you went to a private school or not?

Not even my parents had that anymore, but it looks like it is still a thing in england and other countries?

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/902 "2018-08-26T14:22:00Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> Not even my parents had that anymore, but it looks like it is still a thing in england and other countries?

It’s oddly common in Belgium.

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**Author:** ![Gffp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/gffp/32/12183_2.png) [@Gffp](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Gffp)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/903 "2018-08-26T14:25:07Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> but it looks like it is still a thing in england and other countries?

At primary school, in a private institute, we had to wear a sort of suit on our normal clothes (dark blue for males, light blue for females). I liked it because I didn’t have to care about what to wear, and if someone had cheaper or richer clothes.  
In public schools they’re not requested at all.

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**Author:** ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/904 "2018-08-26T14:25:55Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> How many of you people had to wear school uniforms and did it depend on wheater you went to a private school or not?

Growing up I never had to wear one, it was mainly for private schools. There are public schools here that have uniforms (ties for kindergarten, which I found annoying). The rationale is that it leads to good behavior/more respect. Maybe that works for some kids.

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