# The official language thread

**URL:** <https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524>\
**Category:** Off-topic\
**Created:** [April 3, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524 "2018-04-03T11:14:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/905 "2018-08-26T14:39:27Z")

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> [@yrface](#):
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> The rationale is that it leads to good behavior/more respect.

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/906 "2018-08-26T14:46:04Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> > [@yrface](#):
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> > The rationale is that it leads to good behavior/more respect.
> 
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Anyone else see a unicorn when you squint at the above?

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/907 "2018-08-26T14:47:05Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> Anyone else see a unicorn when you squint at the above?

Yes!  
🦄

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/908 "2018-08-26T14:49:09Z")

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[![](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/triumph.png?v=6) ](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/twitter/triumph.png?v=6)

^ btw, I don’t see what this has to do with triumph. I used it for breathing just in case anyone was wondering.

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/909 "2018-08-26T14:51:24Z")

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But it seems to be a common visualization. For example Apple:  
[![](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/apple/triumph.png?v=6) ](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/apple/triumph.png?v=6)  
Google:  
[![](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/google/triumph.png?v=6) ](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/google/triumph.png?v=6)  
Windows 10:  
[![](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/win10/triumph.png?v=6) ](https://emoji.discourse-cdn.com/win10/triumph.png?v=6)

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/910 "2018-08-26T14:52:25Z")

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I don´t get it either what it has to do with Triumph.

![grafik](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/d/d2fcf8098bad2b9103b8d44947dc79602e729d0e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/911 "2018-08-26T14:57:16Z")

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According to [this German article](https://www.focus.de/digital/internet/wenn-aus-triumph-aerger-wird-diese-neun-emojis-haben-sie-bisher-immer-falsch-verstanden_id_5046094.html) it had its origins in Japan, where an “air steam out of a nose” means dignity/majesty.

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/912 "2018-08-26T14:57:35Z")

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![grafik](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/4/4f8e656de5111cc01b50e2759f1fa2fffd8fa698.png)

![grafik](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/4/45b0fc4d86c0580ca12ea304687b411badd896a2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/913 "2018-08-26T14:58:24Z")

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![grafik](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/4/4f8e656de5111cc01b50e2759f1fa2fffd8fa698.png)

Bless you

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/914 "2018-08-26T16:02:50Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> According to [this German article](https://www.focus.de/digital/internet/wenn-aus-triumph-aerger-wird-diese-neun-emojis-haben-sie-bisher-immer-falsch-verstanden_id_5046094.html) it had its origins in Japan, where an “air steam out of a nose” means dignity/majesty.

Umm…

> [@](#):
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> Schwitzen statt Weinen

…every child who’s watched cartoons should know that. \>\_\>

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/915 "2018-08-26T16:07:31Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> …every child who’s watched cartoons should know that. \>\_\>

Also, why would I think that drop is a tear when it is above the eye?

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/916 "2018-08-26T16:20:08Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> How many of you people had to wear school uniforms and did it depend on wheater you went to a private school or not?

I had to, at primary and secondary. Neither were private. My secondary school uniform was a kind of kilt 😑

> [@yrface](#):
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> The rationale is that it leads to good behavior/more respect.

I don’t think it did that, but I think it helps to stop poorer kids feel shit about their clothes, especially as expensive designer stuff was all the rage in my childhood (I was not a follower, mind you!) It makes everyone a bit more equal, but less individual/expressive I guess.

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/917 "2018-08-26T16:25:50Z")

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> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> My secondary school uniform was a kind of kilt

What distinguishes " a kind of a kilt" from a regular school uniform skirt?

When I asked Lauren about her school uniform earlier on twitter she specifically mentioned a “below the knees” lenght of the skirts. Also that it was strictly forbidden for girls to wear pants (it also seems she went to a very reactionary school, she said she was taught creationism, urghhh).

> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> but I think it helps to stop poorer kids feel shit about their clothes, especially as expensive designer stuff was all the rage in my childhood (I was not a follower, mind you!) It makes everyone a bit more equal

That is usually the pro argument that is used by people who want to introduce them here, too.

> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> but less individual/expressive I guess.

And that is the counter argument I also understand.

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**Author:** ![nihilquest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/nihilquest/32/645_2.png) [@nihilquest](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/nihilquest)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/918 "2018-08-26T16:28:02Z")

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I had a uniform (a very thin, dark blue, logsleeve shirt) in primary school, for maybe three years, it was a public school, there were no private schools back then. Once the communism fell in Poland, school uniforms were one of the first things to go, as they were viewed as a burden of the past. Couple years ago, a radical Catholic minister of Education tried to bring them back in public schools but as soon his coalition lost power, they were discarded and forgotten.

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**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/919 "2018-08-26T18:03:06Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> Also, why would I think that drop is a tear when it is above the eye?

I was wondering that too.

> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> Also that it was strictly forbidden for girls to wear pants

My mom wore pants to school in protest. Of course we’re talking early '60s then, presumably at least a couple decades prior to what you’re talking about.

> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> That is usually the pro argument that is used by people who want to introduce them here, too.

It’s also false unless you go full-on extremely undesirable military conformity with the school providing all the clothes and stomping out any expression of individuality in matters like socks, shoes, and accessories. Richer students will have plenty of immaculate uniforms to wear every day; poor schlobs will have one ratty number, and will they or their single parent have time to iron it? Not to mention that now our fictitious poor caretaker has to spend money on a stupid uniform _and_ out-of-school (night/weekend) clothing.

And seriously, kids getting into trouble for wearing a sweatshirt on top of their school uniform 'cause it’s cold, or the reverse when it’s hot? BS high school rules are infuriatingly ludicrous.

Don’t drink in class.  
Why not?  
(Because as a teacher one has to act in line with school policy.)

> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> especially as expensive designer stuff was all the rage in my childhood

I rather suspect it’s like how raising the drinking age to 18 greatly increased alcohol intake among 16-18 year olds, as anyone could’ve easily predicted.

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**Author:** ![PiecesOfKate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/piecesofkate/32/93_2.png) [@PiecesOfKate](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/PiecesOfKate)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/920 "2018-08-26T18:16:44Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> What distinguishes " a kind of a kilt" from a regular school uniform skirt?

Well to me a kilt usually has a checked pattern, wraps around and secures at the bottom with a pin. A skirt just pulls on or zips. I say ‘kind of’ because it was longer than the typical girls’ kilt (though we rolled ours up at the waist in rebellion) and green and navy checked rather than traditional Scottish red colours. We had to buy them from a specific supplier. There was no trouser equivalent.

> [@Frenzie](#):
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> It’s also false unless you go full-on extremely undesirable military conformity with the school providing all the clothes and stomping out any expression of individuality in matters like socks, shoes, and accessories.

Pretty much my school - that’s why I said it 😉 I got told to remove a green hair scrunchie once because it should’ve been navy blue.

I didn’t really like it but I think it did stop pressure over who has the latest trainers and stuff. It might not completely rule out comparison but it puts everyone on a more level playing field than everyone being completely free to wear whatever they want.

> [@Frenzie](#):
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> Not to mention that now our fictitious poor caretaker has to spend money on a stupid uniform _and_ out-of-school (night/weekend) clothing.

I think those on a lower income had help with paying for uniforms at our school.

I’m not advocating either option by the way - but speaking as someone who wore a uniform there are definitely some benefits.

Another being that I didn’t have to decide what to wear every day (I’m the most indecisive person that I know 😉)

In the interests of Milan’s research I should point out there isn’t a single secondary school in my area, or any other that I know of actually, that doesn’t use uniforms. I guess it’s really common in the UK.

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/921 "2018-08-26T18:50:07Z")

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> [@Frenzie](#):
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> Of course we’re talking early '60s then, presumably at least a couple decades prior to what you’re talking about.

Yeah, @boosegoose is in her early 30s now which puts the school days in the 90s.

> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> In the interests of Milan’s research I should point out there isn’t a single secondary school in my area, or any other that I know of actually, that doesn’t use uniforms. I guess it’s really common in the UK.

And I´m sure that @tasse-tee will have simillar to report, despite growing up at a later time in the opposite part of the country.

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**Author:** ![Festarossa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/festarossa/32/15_2.png) [@Festarossa](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Festarossa)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/922 "2018-08-26T19:43:24Z")

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No uniforms in Finland. And no private schools either.

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/923 "2018-08-26T20:03:09Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> And I´m sure that @tasse-tee will have simillar to report

Tasse-Tee, reporting in!

All secondary schools in my area had uniforms, as far as I’m aware.

At my school we had to wear a white shirt, black skirt/trousers, a black blazer with the school crest sewn on, and a black tie with yellow stripes that we got from the school.

I didn’t like skirts (and still don’t), so I always wore trousers.

> [@Frenzie](#):
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> And seriously, kids getting into trouble for wearing a sweatshirt on top of their school uniform 'cause it’s cold, or the reverse when it’s hot? BS high school rules are infuriatingly ludicrous.

How about always having to wear your blazer in the school corridors, even in summer?  
Always having to ask permission to take your blazer off in class?  
And a rule about how the length of your tie: **how many stripes** must be visible?

High School BS, British Edition.

> [@PiecesOfKate](#):
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> I say ‘kind of’ because it was longer than the typical girls’ kilt (though we rolled ours up at the waist in rebellion)

“Rebellion” at my school translated to wearing your tie with a giant knot. To me it just looked ridiculous.

I agree with the pros and cons of uniforms that you mentioned. Despite the BS rules, on the whole I didn’t mind wearing a uniform.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-official-language-thread/2524/924 "2018-08-27T05:34:53Z")

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> [@Festarossa](#):
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> No uniforms in Finland. And no private schools either

Simply the best.

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