# The Secret of Monkey Island: a community playthrough

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**Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\
**Created:** [April 20, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033 "2022-04-20T19:45:15Z")\
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That EGA sunset is beautiful. It’s really a pity they didn’t include it in the VGA version too. 🫤

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After finishing it again, I can say that MI1 is a wonderful game.

BUT… from a puzzle design perspective, it shows its age. I remembered some parts to be more intricate, while it looked like that probably because I was way younger.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/64 "2022-04-23T13:02:53Z")

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**Update** : I’m fighting pirates like a dairy farmer.

One thing that has caught my attention is that Guybrush can ask a pirate why they all talk in that strange way and the pirate replies something like “Back then they all talked this way. Come on Guybrush, play along!”. That’s some fourth wall break! (and maybe also a hint at the hypothesis that Guybrush might be just a kid playing with his friends)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/65 "2022-04-23T13:42:59Z")

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OK, I’m stuck. 😑 Help!

I’m lost in the Melee forest. How do I go back to the freakin’ map?

Note: I don’t want to search for the treasure, I want just to go back to the village.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/66 "2022-04-23T14:58:51Z")

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I always thought that if you messed up there, after one or two wrong turns you’d wind up back at the first woods screen again, and then from there you could just exit the way you entered. No?

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/67 "2022-04-23T15:07:00Z")

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That’s also what I remembered, but now it has been a good ten minutes of wandering. I don’t understand if there’s something wrong or I just have to wander more until something happens.

> [@a.ammo](#):
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> the first woods screen

How does it look like, this first screen? Is it the one with the yellow flowers?

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/68 "2022-04-23T15:13:50Z")

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I believe so, yes.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/69 "2022-04-23T15:22:03Z")

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As a kid I didn’t understand the map, so just wandered round the maze until I happened upon the treasure

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**Author:** ![Ema](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ema/32/14101_2.png) [@Ema](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Ema)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/70 "2022-04-23T15:41:37Z")

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Same here.

EDIT  
Actually I tried to follow the indications in the map, but maybe I took some wrong turn, because I got lost. So I decided I had just been ripped off, and started wandering until I met the stump and the treasure

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/71 "2022-04-23T16:23:41Z")

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> [@LowLevel](#):
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> One thing that has caught my attention is that Guybrush can ask a pirate why they all talk in that strange way and the pirate replies something like “Back then they all talked this way. Come on Guybrush, play along!”. That’s some fourth wall break! (and maybe also a hint at the hypothesis that Guybrush might be just a kid playing with his friends)

My mind has always gone straight to this line when Ron mentioned the Secret™ being related to some things which seem like nothing more than jokes at first glance.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/72 "2022-04-23T16:28:39Z")

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> [@LowLevel](#):
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> That EGA sunset is beautiful. It’s really a pity they didn’t include it in the VGA version too. 🫤

I pirated MI1 in 1989 or 1990 (But I was officially absolved from my guilt in 2017).  
When I spotted years later on a shop shelf a box of the CD version, I immediately bought it, thinking “I owe this to the developers”.  
Too bad I didn’t have a CD ROM drive.  
I don’t remember how much time passed sinced I got one. Probably a few weeks, but they felt like months. I used to play that CD ROM in my audio CD player, listening to the music and dreaming THAT SUNSET, since it would have been one of the first screenshots I’d have seen.  
I can’t tell you my disppointment when finally I ran the CD to discover that inside the CD it was night time yet.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/73 "2022-04-23T16:29:49Z")

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… and I have just witnessed another possible hint.

> Voodoo Lady: “Now go and find the one that loves you. But be warned…”
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> Guybrush: “Don’t worry, I’ll watch out for LeChuck.”
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> Voodoo Lady: “Not of LeChuck… of yourself and what you will find. What you will find out about yourself and your world. It will terrify you.”

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> [@Ema](#):
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> I can’t tell you my disppointment when finally I ran the CD to discover that inside the CD it was night time yet.

And I haven’t even noticed until today that there was a sunset that changed into a night (and I played the EGA version back then…). 🙈 Shame on me!

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> [@Guga](#):
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> BUT… from a puzzle design perspective, it shows its age.

For example?

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Thanks for the guidance! Even after managing to reach the yellow flower screen, I had some additional trouble finding the exit, but eventually I got there.

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> [@uriel](#):
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> just sharing a snapshot of my little gaming corner:

Looks almost as if you’re playing on a C64 there  
Also: heavy note taking during gameplay? 😉

> [@Guga](#):
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> The original Italian translation is AWFUL.

You know, you can make your own. Do it for your daughters!

> [@Guga](#):
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> I thought it was a man.

Mmmm. That translation must be really bad, I guess

> [@Ema](#):
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> a wonderful specimen of a Melee Sylvan Swine.

Uncanny resemblance!

> [@LowLevel](#):
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> That’s some fourth wall break! (and maybe also a hint at the hypothesis that Guybrush might be just a kid playing with his friends)

> [@LowLevel](#):
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> … and I have just witnessed another possible hint.

Well, if you go back up to the lookout at the start of the game and talk to him again, you can say “don’t you ever wonder we are all just actors in a play?” That is even a spoiler for Thimbleweed Park

> [@LowLevel](#):
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> I had some additional trouble finding the exit

I am almost certain you can reach both the treasure and the swordmaster without map or help. The odds are low of course…

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@uriel Pegboard in an office, I love this. Also, I finished MI1 and am very proud of myself.

> [@Sushi](#):
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> I am almost certain you can reach both the treasure and the swordmaster without map or help. The odds are low of course…

What about LeChuck’s ship?

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I’m trying to do things as much as possible different from my first playthrough, like stewing the fish, leaving theft as last trial,using sun and lens instead of the flint, choosing different dialogues. But this didn’t lead to anything interesting.  
unlike indy3 which has plenty of parallel solutions, these little variations in MI puzzle chart always… puzzled me. Why keeping so few alternatives? Why not making it completely linear, then? Why just those inifluent and sporadic variations?  
I’m also trying to break the game to make it unsolvable, but they have been very careful to avoid that. I tried getting rid of useful objects in the pot at scumm bar, I tried to mislead the bargain at Stan’s in order to miss the deal, I also tried to run out of fuse for the cannon on the Sea Monkey.  
If I recall correctly, there’s a way to break the game, possibly burning into fire some essential object. Am I wrong?

EDIT  
Oh, I also deliberately kept for myself all the 3 proofs I got for winning the 3 trials. Actually reporting back to the important looking pirates is useless in the progress of the game

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> [@Ema](#):
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> If I recall correctly, there’s a way to break a game, possibly burning into fire some essential object. Am I wrong?

It’s my recollection that is indeed possible to burn an essential object onboard the Sea Monkey and put the game into an unwinnable state. Also, it’s possible to either give all of your pieces of eight to Otis, or to spend them all on the Grog machine, which makes the game unwinnable from that point on.

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> [@a.ammo](#):
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> I always thought that if you messed up there, after one or two wrong turns you’d wind up back at the first woods screen again, and then from there you could just exit the way you entered. No?

That was Dinky Island in Monkey 2. The Forrest of Mêlée is hardcoded.

> [@Sushi](#):
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> I am almost certain you can reach both the treasure and the swordmaster without map or help. The odds are low of course…

Not that low actually. It is just 11 or so screens. If you’re really lost, you might even draw a map and find out very soon.  
Also, you need to buy the map or follow the store keeper first, or Guybrush refuses to go further than the screen with the yellow flowers.

> [@St\_Eddie](#):
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> It’s my recollection that is indeed possible to burn an essential object onboard the Sea Monkey and put the game into an unwinnable state.

That was a bug. It is fixed in the Ultimate Talkie Edtition.

> [@St\_Eddie](#):
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> Also, it’s possible to either give all of your pieces of eight to Otis, or to spend them all on the Grog machine, which makes the game unwinnable from that point on.

They prevented it on the SE, which I backported to the original scripts in the Ultimate Talkie Edition.

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