# The Secret of Monkey Island: a community playthrough **URL:** \ **Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\ **Created:** [April 20, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033 "2022-04-20T19:45:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/143 "2022-04-27T12:20:02Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > why did they assign to the character an American voice actor? I actually heard some Americans claim that the British originally spoke with an accent that’s way more similar to today’s American accent, and then started “faking” it on purpose after US independence to separate them, and this led to current British accents. I think this is idiotic and false, but hey, in this world view that means that an American voice actor would be the best person to voice a pre-1776 Brit 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/144 "2022-04-27T12:27:34Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > I always wondered: who tells you the yellow flowers can be used to put people asleep? If you examine the flower, it says it’s Sleeping Poodle. That should be a hint. ---
**Author:** ![Frenzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/frenzie/32/4416_2.png) [@Frenzie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Frenzie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/145 "2022-04-27T13:15:11Z")
> [@Guga](#): > > I think this is idiotic and false, but hey, in this world view that means that an American voice actor would be the best person to voice a pre-1776 Brit 😛 The faking part is of course either tongue in cheek or stupid but the first part of that is simply true. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![LogicDeLuxe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/logicdeluxe/32/15335_2.png) [@LogicDeLuxe](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LogicDeLuxe)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/147 "2022-04-27T13:37:02Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > I always wondered: who tells you the yellow flowers can be used to Otis mentions them. ---
**Author:** ![bongobrain](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/bongobrain/32/13926_2.png) [@bongobrain](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/bongobrain)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/148 "2022-04-27T14:16:40Z")
> [@Guga](#): > > I actually heard some Americans claim that the British originally spoke with an accent that’s way more similar to today’s American accent Yeah people love the idea that the Appalachian accent or the Southern accent is somehow a frozen-in-time Colonial English accent. It’s like clickbait headlines, if it’s absolutely absurd and has a grain of truth, people love to believe it. The only American accents that would be more hilarious to make this claim with are our Surfer or Fargo accents. So I expect these claims to be made soon and catch on like wildfire. ---
**Author:** ![St\_Eddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/st_eddie/32/13650_2.png) [@St\_Eddie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/St_Eddie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/149 "2022-04-27T15:04:54Z")
> [@a.ammo](#): > > I’ve freed that rat every time I’ve played the game. What kind of reprehensible people are you, leaving that poor rat in a cell??? Rats belong in a vat of soup, not in a jail cell! ---
**Author:** ![St\_Eddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/st_eddie/32/13650_2.png) [@St\_Eddie](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/St_Eddie)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/150 "2022-04-27T15:11:44Z")
> [@Guga](#): > > There are other design documents that seemed to suggest Guybrush arrived to the Caribbean from England. > > Moreover, Threepwood is a surname in some P.G.Wodehouse novels set in England. So… Guybrush is a Brit. I would agree, up until they cast Dominic Armato as Guybrush Threepwood. Now he’s canonically a yank. > [@Guga](#): > > I actually heard some Americans claim that the British originally spoke with an accent that’s way more similar to today’s American accent, and then started “faking” it on purpose after US independence to separate them, and this led to current British accents. > > I think this is idiotic and false… Yeah, I’m a Brit and can confirm that’s utter bunkum. I was around during the 16th Century and we always said TOE-MAR-TOE. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/151 "2022-04-27T16:29:44Z")
That’s incredibly interesting for me. Where can I learn more about how the British accent has evolved over time? I don’t want to derail this thread too much off topic, though. If you could just mention a few links/books/resources to study, I would really appreciate it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bongobrain](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/bongobrain/32/13926_2.png) [@bongobrain](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/bongobrain)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/152 "2022-04-27T17:00:56Z")
I’m fairly ignorant on the topic but here’s a pretty interesting read from the BBC: [How Americans preserved British English - BBC Culture](https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20180207-how-americans-preserved-british-english) ---
**Author:** ![Sushi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/sushi/32/163_2.png) [@Sushi](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Sushi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/153 "2022-04-27T17:21:28Z")
> [@a.ammo](#): > > What kind of reprehensible people are you, leaving that poor rat in a cell??? After pestering poor seagulls and stealing their food, no less! Shame on you… ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/154 "2022-04-27T18:04:22Z")
I have just discovered that I have missed another completely optional room for thirty years… but it was in MI2. 😁 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/4/4e408f70c24264c15a1330873dfd7c7f4e21e9cc.png) Since I’m planning to do a playthrough of MI2 as well, I’ll try to find this room later. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/155 "2022-04-27T18:17:54Z")
**Update** : I have found a ghost ship. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/d/dcae02eb9ce0021a0222b555be9f80fd59051455.png) ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/156 "2022-04-27T18:59:01Z")
Well, I’ve just finished the game and I want to thank @LogicDeLuxe for the magnificent Ultimate Talkie Edition. 🙂 By the way, was it you who fixed the “multiple ghost keys” bug? Or was is already fixed in the VGA version? ---
**Author:** ![Ema](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ema/32/14101_2.png) [@Ema](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Ema)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/157 "2022-04-27T19:48:29Z")
> [@asterothe](#): > > so Guybrush is from old world I remember I read something, about this old world nod. Anyway, it makes perfectly sense. I might be wrong, but -historicallly speaking- it is quite unlikely he came from the States. I bet all the adventurers coming in the Caribbean in 1600 were from England, France, Spain. Holland, at most. Anyway I gave it for granted he was British. > [@LowLevel](#): > > why did they assign to the character an American voice actor? 🤔 Well, the fact that Guybrush is British seemed pretty obvious to ME doesn’t mean that it was for anybody. Since his mother country isn’t essential for the plot, my guess is simply that the casting director of CMI (when Dominic Armato was hired, and Ron Gilbert no longer had a say in the matter) didn’t bother to ask himself if Guybrush could have been “stranger”. But I like to think, _a posteriori_, that an american accent is coherent: Guybrush, the mighty pirate who lived straddling XVII and XVIII century, is British. But Guybrush, the kid who impersonated him while playing with his brother, seems to be a XIX century rural american boy, with some old-fashioned parents. > [@seguso](#): > > I always wondered: who tells you the yellow flowers can be used to put people asleep? > [@LogicDeLuxe](#): > > Otis mentions them. AFAIR, Otis says the flowers are called “caniche endormi”, but… > [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > If you examine the flower, it says it’s Sleeping Poodle …I didn’t remember Guybrush gave it away like this! ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/158 "2022-04-27T20:39:22Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > I don’t want to derail this thread Hey, this is still the old TWP forum! 🤨 > [@LowLevel](#): > > I have just discovered that I have missed another completely optional room for thirty years… but it was in MI2. 😁 Isn’t that the same room where you hang with Wally? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![LogicDeLuxe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/logicdeluxe/32/15335_2.png) [@LogicDeLuxe](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LogicDeLuxe)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/159 "2022-04-27T20:39:39Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > Since I’m planning to do a playthrough of MI2 as well, I’ll try to find this room later. While that screenshot is obviously taken in some unfinished pre-release version, that room does exist in the released game. > [@LowLevel](#): > > By the way, was it you who fixed the “multiple ghost keys” bug? Or was is already fixed in the VGA version? In fact, I did. It’s mentioned in the readme.txt. There is a long list of bug fixes, with a mention of game versions in which they existed. > [@Ema](#): > > …I didn’t remember Guybrush gave it away like this! Me neither. In what version does he mention that? Some translated version, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/160 "2022-04-27T22:13:48Z")
> [@Ema](#): > > But Guybrush, the kid who impersonated him while playing with his brother, seems to be a XIX century rural american boy, with some old-fashioned parents. From this perspective, it makes a lot of sense! > [@Someone](#): > > Hey, this is still the old TWP forum! 🤨 Ok, I’ll derail it as much as possible. 😐 > [@Someone](#): > > Isn’t that the same room where you hang with Wally? I don’t know if it’s related to that other room, but the style is very similar. ---
**Author:** ![bongobrain](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/bongobrain/32/13926_2.png) [@bongobrain](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/bongobrain)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/161 "2022-04-27T22:14:08Z")
Just reading through the readme now. You did all of this? Absolutely amazing, thanks for all the work! ---
**Author:** ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-secret-of-monkey-island-a-community-playthrough/5033/162 "2022-04-28T05:22:49Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > “multiple ghost keys” bug What’s that? ---
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