# WARNING: dangerous topic (politics!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-topic\ **Created:** [May 30, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753 "2018-05-30T09:06:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/305 "2019-09-11T09:38:27Z")
> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > And with the same Prime Minister, Giuseppe Conte! Sounds like the German government after the last election: We got Angela Merkel again… ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/306 "2019-09-11T09:38:48Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Sounds like the German government after the last election: We got Angela Merkel again… No no, it’s different! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/307 "2019-09-11T09:41:01Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Or would you like just to know what we (other Europeans) think about it? Yeah, what do you think (or hope) will happen? I hope they’ll say it’s illegal, because I think Johnson did this to try to force through a no-deal. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/308 "2019-09-11T09:41:59Z")
> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > There will be DEAL or NO DEAL ? Oh, Oh, take the suitcase 11! [https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/deal-a.jpg](https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/deal-a.jpg) To be serious again: I really don’t know how this will end. For me it seems that all possibilities are possible. Especially with Boris Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/309 "2019-09-11T09:42:44Z")
> [@tasse-tee](#): > > I hope they’ll say it’s illegal, because I think Johnson did this to try to force through a no-deal. Same here. ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/310 "2019-09-11T09:44:52Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > take the suitcase Eheh… with a NO DEAL, from one day to another, every informatic procedure that involves something UK, should be split in two: EU and NOT-EU. Lot of work for us, on different programs. ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/311 "2019-09-11T09:46:05Z")
@tasse-tee please enlighten me: why Mr. Johnson wants a NO DEAL at every cost? Isn’t more convenient for everyone to reach an agreement, a deal? ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/312 "2019-09-11T09:46:37Z")
> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > every informatic procedure that involves something UK, should be split in two: EU and NOT-EU. But isn’t that already the case for other countries, like the Swiss? ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/313 "2019-09-11T09:47:57Z")
> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > why Mr. Johnson wants a NO DEAL at every cost? Because he doesn’t like the content of the contract between the UK and the EU. ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/314 "2019-09-11T09:49:27Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > But isn’t that already the case for other countries, like the Swiss? It’s different, because Swiss is already a NON-EU country. There are procedures where “things” from Italy, France, Germany, Austria, TheseDicks and so on have in common many resources. Sometimes it’s easy to change the classification, because of the country. Sometimes it’s not, for instance, if there was a unique procedure for ALL the products of EUROPE, now it must be created a new procedure, ONLY for UK. That’s doubles information, costs, time, production. ---
**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/315 "2019-09-11T09:53:33Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Because he doesn’t like the content of the contract between the UK and the EU. And also because he thinks any Brexit is better than no Brexit, and that the British people want any Brexit… even one that benefits no one… ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/316 "2019-09-11T09:56:44Z")
And you, what do you think about the imminent Brexit? @tasse-tee @PiecesOfKate ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/317 "2019-09-11T09:57:07Z")
Doesn’t he still think that the UK would save a lot of money after a no-deal Brexit? ---
**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/318 "2019-09-11T09:58:08Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > save a lot of money after a no-deal Brexit? I’ve read that UK must pay to EU 39 billions of punds. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/319 "2019-09-11T10:00:41Z")
> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > I’ve read that UK must pay to EU 39 billions of punds. I can’t confirm the sum, but you are right. But you should keep in mind that the UK got already money from the EU and is/was involved in several European projects (for example research projects). ---
**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/320 "2019-09-11T10:29:08Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Doesn’t he still think that the UK would save a lot of money after a no-deal Brexit? Johnson thinks that the UK would not owe the full 39 billion if we left without a deal. And Brexit itself would supposedly save the government a lot of money, but I’m not sure if that’s still the case in a no-deal scenario. > [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#): > > And you, what do you think? @tasse-tee I think it’s a solid argument that parliament should be in session while the matter of Brexit is still unresolved. Deliberately hindering progress in order to force through an unfavorable outcome is an abuse of power. The fact that one court agrees with this adds weight to the argument, and I think the Supreme Court will find it outweighs whatever reasoning the other side were using (the court that declared it legal). ---
**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/321 "2019-09-11T10:34:30Z")
So basically, in an Ace Attorney scenario, I think the prosecutor will win. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/322 "2019-09-11T11:09:57Z")
> [@tasse-tee](#): > > And Brexit itself would supposedly save the government a lot of money Why do you think so? ---
**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/323 "2019-09-11T11:20:33Z")
I don’t think it would. I’m not sure why the government does. In fact, an independent watchdog commented last year that the opposite would likely be the case. > **[UK will save no money from Brexit for next five years, says OBR](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/13/uk-save-money-brexit-obr-divorce-bill)** > > Country will continue paying divorce bill until at least 2064, predicts budget watchdog ---
**Author:** ![kaiman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@kaiman](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/kaiman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/324 "2019-09-11T18:59:01Z")
> [@Someone](#): > > Oh, Oh, take the suitcase 11! I find it quite shocking how the few people in charge gamble with the future of millions. I’m pretty certain Mr. Johnson hoped the EU would, in the end, make concessions to avoid a no deal (I’m also pretty sure that won’t happen), and he can’t have parliament interfering with his plan. But I think he really is undermining democracy with his actions, and not matter the outcome, the damage will be done. Personally, I still have the small hope that Brexit (if it’s not outright cancelled) will suck so much that Britain will eventually return to the EU, without special status this time. But I fear with the reckless and egoistical breed we have nowadays for our political caste, this will never come to pass. Looks like we might eventually welcome the Scots, though … [Previous page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753.md?page=16)