# WARNING: dangerous topic (politics!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-topic\ **Created:** [May 30, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753 "2018-05-30T09:06:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 133
**Author:** ![Gffp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/gffp/32/12183_2.png) [@Gffp](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Gffp)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753/133 "2018-07-06T12:17:57Z")
From the [Characters & Their Names - #86 by yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/characters-their-names/2862/86) thread: > [@Characters & Their Names](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/characters-their-names/2862/86): > > > [@Characters & Their Names](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/characters-their-names/2862/85): > > > > But seriously in europe the current situation is the same as in the states at the moment that everybody´s discussing how to just legally reject people at the borders. > > You know watching the news about immigration makes me sometimes think, wow we need another planet, this one’s full. But in reality I think there are a lot of nice places left, it’s just that everyone fights to live in the same populated pieces of dirt. > [@Characters & Their Names](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/characters-their-names/2862/87): > > Yeah…in reality, all people are saying is “Hey countries who helped to bomb our homes into the shitholes they are now. Would you maybe help us to stay somewhere more peaceful?” But you know, that again would require admitting mistakes… Yes. Again all governements in Europe don’t want to let immigrants come. Macron says to Salvini he is wrong, but when it comes to let people go in France, he allowed french policemen to go even beyond the french border in Italy to block people. Spanish government has african borders guarded with machine-guns (while Ada Colau, major of Barcelona, and Joan Ribò, major of Valencia, accepted the people on Aquarius ship which eventually landed on national soil in the second city). Anyway, this shows how many difficulties Europe has to handle a common immigration policy. It is true, as Macron says, that countries like France have a population of resident immigrants higher than in Italy. But it’s also true that in the last years, mainly 2013-2016, Italy is the country that accepted the most, simply because our harbours were always open, unlike those of the other coastal mediterranean countries. Furthermore, we do not have a colonial history, unlike France and other european countries, apart from the two episodes of the early twentieth century, very brief and different from colonial behaviour of the earlier centuries. A serious politics about immigration should first decide that immigration is a common issue. People move across Europe as they did in past decades, and a share for every country should be decided. Then the countries like Hungary (the group of Orban and co.) that don’t want to accept immigrants, should not receive european funds (sometimes in those cases they receive more money as funds than they pay as taxes, and some of them even have their own currency - they take only what they want from Europe! -) Then we should really - really! - care for the conditions of the countries where they come from, when they are war refugees, but also economic immigrants. Why no one ever say “Hey! Let’s stop selling war weapons to them!”; only then I could trust the very same man saying “Let’s help them in their country” which is, if taken outside of rethoric, a good intention. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/warning-dangerous-topic-politics/2753)._