# When is placed Monkey Island 1?

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**Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\
**Created:** [March 19, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458 "2018-03-19T12:33:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![NinjaGamer13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ninjagamer13/32/10770_2.png) [@NinjaGamer13](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/NinjaGamer13)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/101 "2019-03-15T22:19:04Z")

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OR in the alternate timeline where SMI, MI2, and MI3a are canon, it’s a post-apocalyptic world where only remnants of our technology still exist and everything else has reverted back to more or less pirate times, taking place in either 3014 or 2187-2189 depending on what mood Ron Gilbert is in… But I’m gonna stick with 1685-1695 for the official timeline where SMI, MI2, CMI, EMI, and TMI are canon, lol…

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/102 "2019-03-15T22:45:59Z")

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Oh no!! Guybrush slept too long!

![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/8/8ebf875e5ef3c743a84c1e24ca77b45b9e1a2061.gif)

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**Author:** ![ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/zakphoenixmckracken/32/41_2.png) [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ZakPhoenixMcKracken)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/103 "2019-03-20T09:21:28Z")

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> [@RonGilbert](#):
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> The secret of Monkey Island takes place in 2187. Monkey Island 2 takes place in 2189.

😛 I don’t think so!

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**Author:** ![tasse-tee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/tasse-tee/32/4002_2.png) [@tasse-tee](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/tasse-tee)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/104 "2019-03-20T09:26:35Z")

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Ron Gilbert has the power to make things canon.  
Objection overruled. 😁

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/105 "2019-03-20T10:06:31Z")

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> [@ZakPhoenixMcKracken](#):
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> > [@RonGilbert](#):
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> > The secret of Monkey Island takes place in 2187. Monkey Island 2 takes place in 2189.
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> 😛 I don’t think so!

This will be your reaction to him revealing the actual Secret of Monkey Island, mark my words.

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/106 "2019-03-20T10:14:03Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> This will be your reaction to him revealing the actual Secret of Monkey Island,

No, it wasn’t:

> [@The real Secret of Monkey Island](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/the-real-secret-of-monkey-island/1742/2):
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> Now all makes sense! Monkeys love bananas Guybrush is a banana Monkeys love Guybrush this love must be kept secret The Secret of Monkey Island

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/107 "2019-03-20T10:19:36Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> No, it wasn’t

But that wasn´t the real one anyway.

As we all know by now:

> [@Monkey Island 3A](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/monkey-island-3a/2873/62):
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> Oh crap… you found the secret of Monkey Island.

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**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/108 "2019-03-20T10:23:32Z")

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> [@milanfahrnholz](#):
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> But that wasn´t the real one anyway.

Both answers are correct: Guybrush is a Banana and that ending is “really not that good”.

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**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/109 "2019-03-20T10:32:47Z")

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I´d say they even might be co-related.

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**Author:** ![ephialtes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ephialtes/32/11961_2.png) [@ephialtes](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ephialtes)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/110 "2019-04-07T19:37:24Z")

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According to the first design document called “Mutiny on Monkey Island”: the game takes place on the evening of September 15, 1590

> <https://twitter.com/Nicozilla_FR/status/1113460635227107328>

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**Author:** ![NinjaGamer13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ninjagamer13/32/10770_2.png) [@NinjaGamer13](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/NinjaGamer13)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/111 "2019-04-07T23:23:47Z")

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Okay, now the information in those Tweets are VERY interesting! However, these early design documents are still talking about a “Smear West” instead of Guybrush and such, so they cannot be said to be canonical. I say whatever information still fits with the officially released games and such made after those documents could be considered still potentially canonical, but the year being 1590 does not fit with the dates given in the SMI press release and in CMI and such, so I’m gonna say that has been retconned.

How did this individual get their hands on these documents? Are they legit?

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**Author:** ![ephialtes](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ephialtes/32/11961_2.png) [@ephialtes](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/ephialtes)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/112 "2019-04-08T06:56:33Z")

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Those documents are from Aric Wilmunder. There was a forum post about them two years ago:

> [@Original Lucas game design documents (and the MI story written by Ron)](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/original-lucas-game-design-documents-and-the-mi-story-written-by-ron/438):
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> Aric Wilmunder, who worked at Lucasfilm Games / LucasArts during the golden age of adventure games and co-designed the SCUMM engine is creating an archive of the original design documents for the games that the company published back then. It’s a real treasure chest for anyone interested in adventures games, have a look: [http://wilmunder.com/Arics\_World/Games.html](http://wilmunder.com/Arics_World/Games.html) The document that I’m reading right now is [this little gem of narrative by Ron: the story of Monkey Island [PDF]](http://wilmunder.com/Arics_World/Games_files/1990%20The%20New%20Monkey%20Island.compressed.pdf). I love it! The …

The documents can be found at the Internet Archive:

> **[Computer Game Design Documents : Aric Wilmunder : Free Download, Borrow, and...](https://archive.org/details/ComputerGameDesignDOcuments)**
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> Aric Wilmunder's scans of design documents for early computer games:The Dragon Game (which became The Eidolon)Alien Tanknology (which became Koronis...

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/113 "2019-04-08T13:30:06Z")

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Ah, thank you very much!

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/mr.e/32/15302_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/when-is-placed-monkey-island-1/2458/114 "2024-10-30T21:57:16Z")

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I still believe your answer. Really.  
I tried to put my own characters on the late '90s, and everything turns empty. I need help!  
I really needed to know the answer for this question. So THANKS.  
Now I have no time to waste, I have to return to my '90s now! The Diary of the Essences is waiting for me…  
Sorry for bothering you all 🦴_MrBones_

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