# Which Sierra games do you like? **URL:** \ **Category:** Adventure/Lucasfilm Games\ **Created:** [October 6, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807 "2017-10-06T04:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/1 "2017-10-06T04:30:50Z")
I’m aware that this forum is full of LucasArts fans and I’m old enough to remember the “rivalry” between Sierra and LucasFilm Games, but are there Sierra games that you like? Did you play them back in the cretaceous, my fellow triceratops? I never played any of their games back then because I’ve never liked that way of designing adventure games but in recent years I’ve played “Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers” (the anniversary edition) and I really liked it, despite the genre of the story (esoterism and magic) being one that I have never been interested in. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/7/7b49eea2c033dada1fb84179f4169feae49eb534.jpg) GK1 is very different from the other Sierra games that I knew, because it’s a “modern” adventure game that follows similar design guidelines of the “after-Zak” Lucas games. What about you? ---
**Author:** ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/2 "2017-10-06T05:47:46Z")
I played some of them, but I never liked them because it took me too much to translate my thoughts to English (even if I played some LA games in English, but it’s way easier to _understand_ written sentences than to _produce_ written sentences) and because I was always dying for no reason. However, I’m a great fan of Laura Bow: The Colonel’s Bequest. As I always say, once you accept you need multiple iterations to unlock its secrets, it’s quite an interesting game. ---
**Author:** ![SamCarterX206](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@SamCarterX206](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/SamCarterX206)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/3 "2017-10-06T06:05:52Z")
I liked the Gobliins games when I was a kid. I owned King’s Quest VI, and the deaths used to freak me out (I was pretty young) so I never got that far until I was older. Never did play the Space Quest games until I was grown, but I enjoyed them (and the fan games) when I did. the first Dr. Brain game was one of those quintessential kids educational games one played in the 90s. And let’s not forget Incredible Machine was published by Sierra. ---
**Author:** ![Ricardo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/ricardo/32/497_2.png) [@Ricardo](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Ricardo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/4 "2017-10-06T07:25:25Z")
I love the Larry series, especially LSL7. I have also played Gabriel Knight 1, the new and the old, both of which I like. To the Gabriel Knight 3 I played but it seemed an absurdly impossible game to me. I recently tried King Quest VI, but by the deaths and absurd design of the game I decided to abandon it. It’s my personal opinion, of course, but I think the LucasArts games were about 100 times better. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![DZ-Jay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@DZ-Jay](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/DZ-Jay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/5 "2017-10-06T10:52:51Z")
I played all the _Leisure Suit Larry_ and the _Space Quest_ series, some _Police Quest_, and some _Gabriel Knight_. I like most of them, but I loved the SQ and LSL games. I also played Roberta William’s _Phantasmagoria_ and was a big fan. Even as I could identify many flaws, I still thought it was a good story and rather intelligently put together – and more than a bit creepy at times! I own it and have played it at least three times in the last couple of decades, I also _tried_ playing _Phantasmagoria 2: Puzzle Of Flesh_ a few times and gave up rather quickly. The game is clunky, the story weird, and the puzzles uninteresting. I own this one too, but consider it wasted money. I’m pretty sure there are other games, but these are the ones that stand out in my mind right now. I own the SQ and LSL collections and play them all once in a while. They are very flawed games, and indeed there is much that frustrates and infuriates me in them (apart from the fact that I can never finish them without a walk-through, or having memorize one by now), but they are still a lot of fun. 🙂 dZ. ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/6 "2017-10-06T12:15:58Z")
I’d really like to play Phantasmagoria, but those white sneakers are just too much for me: ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/6/6a0d41286215e34f9d982e016623b6d3383ffa6f.jpg) Why did she have to wear white sneakers? ---
**Author:** ![Guga](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/guga/32/14476_2.png) [@Guga](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Guga)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/8 "2017-10-06T13:40:38Z")
> [@seguso](#): > > Why did she have to wear white sneakers? For sneaking! @milanfahrnholz ---
**Author:** ![seguso](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/seguso/32/1232_2.png) [@seguso](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/seguso)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/9 "2017-10-06T14:10:59Z")
Couldn’t she wear something like this ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/9/96da5b62ea784122bcfca7bf5ecc2cea7b59fa63.jpg) or this ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/8/8d9f389420a5f23366f7ec4a6102ddb97b2f17d3.jpg) heck, anything would have been ok. Anything but white sneakers. ---
**Author:** ![Paul](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/paul/32/15080_2.png) [@Paul](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Paul)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/10 "2017-10-06T14:17:33Z")
Here are the ones I’ve played and what I thought of them… a lot of them I played for the very first time pretty recently (a couple of years ago) and they stand up very well… SQ1 - great game, I played the remake first, but have also played the original SQ2 - difficult, not that great, I didn’t get very far SQ3 - excellent game, great locations SQ4 - brilliant, very funny, excellent concept, best SQ game to me SQ5 - pretty good, not quite up there with 4, but solid SQ6 - very good, funny, some good locations KQ1 - difficult to play nowadays as it’s got some quirks (different ways to solve puzzles, etc.) KQ2 - best of the KQ games to me, really enjoyable KQ3 - worst of the KQ games, a horrible timed thing happens for the whole first part of the game KQ4 - ok, pretty frustrating at a lot of points though KQ5 - some of it’s great, some of it’s terrible, pretty difficult too KQ6 - excellent game, 2nd best KQ game to me PQ1 - great game… I’m not a fan of police stuff normally, but it was good as a one-off for me PQ4 - not much fun, lots of video type of graphics LSL1 - excellent and hilarious, not really my kind of game so I didn’t play the others, but a great one-off ---
**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/11 "2017-10-06T14:53:39Z")
> [@Guga](#): > > For sneaking! > > @milanfahrnholz ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/9/9b6a910d7366b8827ed3a41bc62615f2b9e5ad5b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![nihilquest](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/nihilquest/32/645_2.png) [@nihilquest](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/nihilquest)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/12 "2017-10-06T22:57:17Z")
GK1 was amazing but the anniversary version looks just terrible, sterile and stiff… ugh. If I’ll ever replay it, I’ll try the original for sure. As for other games. I loved Larry 1-3, which despite being a comedy game, seemed to have a kind of dark, sleazy, urban vibe to them (urban, except for the parts in the jungle : ). I don’t recall any other games like that. This is pretty much missing in the recent version of 1, so I don’t recommend that. The rest of Larry series was ok, but more slapstic, juvenile, cartoon fun and not as much interesting to me. Something like DOTT was to MM. Space Quest series I think was brilliant. I could see this as a LA game. The VGA version of 1 is a pretty good start. I played only one part of Quest for Glory (which is a hybrid game) and didn’t even finish but that was very good as well. Pity I didn’t have these games earlier, when I had more time. The worst Sierra game I played was Gabriel Knight 3, I want to forget it existed. ---
**Author:** ![LowLevel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/lowlevel/32/48_2.png) [@LowLevel](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/LowLevel)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/13 "2017-10-07T04:27:29Z")
> [@nihilquest](#): > > GK1 was amazing but the anniversary version looks just terrible, sterile and stiff… I like both versions. The original one has that special warm touch that pixel art infuses into a game, but in my opinion the graphics of the anniversary edition aren’t bad as, for example, the graphics of the special edition of “The Secret of Monkey Island”. I would say that compared to the original style, the anniversary edition feels “colder”, but I don’t think that its quality is low. > [@nihilquest](#): > > Space Quest series I think was brilliant. I could see this as a LA game. That’s interesting. When you say “as a LA game”, in terms of gameplay do you mean something more similar to the pre-MI games or something more similar to MI and later adventure games? ---
**Author:** ![DZ-Jay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@DZ-Jay](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/DZ-Jay)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/14 "2017-10-07T10:43:53Z")
> [@LowLevel](#): > > > [@nihilquest](#): > > > > Space Quest series I think was brilliant. I could see this as a LA game. > > That’s interesting. When you say “as a LA game”, in terms of gameplay do you mean something more similar to the pre-MI games or something more similar to MI and later adventure games? Personally, in terms of story, structure, and irreverent wit, not necessarily puzzles. What I’d love to see is a _Space Quest_ which has been informed by **Gilbert’s Rules** of design. In my opinion, the most frustrating part of old Sierra games is the dependency on _learn-by-death_ as a game mechanic, and on illogical and arbitrary puzzles. dZ. ---
**Author:** ![Someone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@Someone](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/Someone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/15 "2017-10-07T11:27:02Z")
> [@DZ-Jay](#): > > In my opinion, the most frustrating part of old Sierra games is the dependency on learn-by-death as a game mechanic, and on illogical and arbitrary puzzles. I second this. The stories of the Sierra games were very interesting and funny. The developers had very great ideas. I loved for example Larry, Space Quest, King’s Quest, the Laura Bow adventures and Goldrush. But the puzzle chains based on death were/are awful. ---
**Author:** ![PiecesOfKate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/piecesofkate/32/93_2.png) [@PiecesOfKate](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/PiecesOfKate)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/16 "2017-10-07T12:10:15Z")
I loved SQ2, but that’s probably clouded by nostalgia as it was the first adventure game I played. The ruthless deaths didn’t bother me and seemed fair at the time, though since playing more LA (or similar) style games I realise Sierra games were a little harsh. But I had no comparison at the time. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, as a kid I loved the text parser format. I was blown away by the fact that I could tell the game exactly what I wanted to do, even if it didn’t work. I’d never played a game like that before - it was so immersive. I also think the ruthlessness allowed for better (or bitter!) humour. I did find the SQ series really hard though and have only completed them as an adult with a walk through. If I’d happened to play LA games first instead, my opinion would probably be very different and I probably wouldn’t have liked Sierra games quite so much. I played King’s Quest I on a plane trip last year but got a bit fed up with the vast openness of it, and being attacked by various things in the middle of trying to solve a puzzle 😐 Actually another thing I hated about the later SQ games were the arcade sequences. As demonstrated by these save games of mine. ![IMG_20171007_130721](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/thimbleweedpark/original/2X/e/ec908b849b02a39aa192e551977a79f67ab3593c.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/17 "2017-10-07T12:32:27Z")
I´m quoting myself from another thread here: > [@Favorite non-Lucas point-and-click adventure games](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/favorite-non-lucas-point-and-click-adventure-games/446/174): > > The Sierra remakes that replace the text parser with a point and click interface and add a hilarious narrator, are actually really good. I played the first three King´s Quest games. The first one was okay (the infinity of the map is a bit confusing) the 3rd one I hardly played because I didn´t like that timer system with the wizard at the beginning, but King´s Quest 2, I´m sorry to say is an amazing game that I thoroughly enjoyed! _"The Sierra remakes that replace the text parser with a point and click interface and add a hilarious narrator, are actually really good._ _I played the first three King´s Quest games. The first one was okay (the infinity of the map is a bit confusing) the 3rd one I hardly played because I didn´t like that timer system with the wizard at the beginning, but **King´s Quest 2, I´m sorry to say is an amazing game that I thoroughly enjoyed!**"_ The part where I decided for myself how much I loved part 2 was probably when I reached the tower with the Lions, it just seemed so big for a game from that time. And you traveled between islands almost like a certain other game. And the narrator sounds oddly like the one from The Cave, the humor is even in a similar snarky style. ---
**Author:** ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/18 "2017-10-07T12:34:13Z")
I have really fond memories of the King’s Quest games. Even though Ron is right about having to fight with the text parser and that it only recognizes a limited amount of verbs, it still seemed amazing to me at the time. It felt like you could do anything you wanted. KQ 1,4 and 5 were the ones I remember liking. The random deaths in KQ1 are pretty obnoxious though. ---
**Author:** ![milanfahrnholz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@milanfahrnholz](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/milanfahrnholz)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/19 "2017-10-07T12:39:32Z")
> [@yrface](#): > > KQ 1,4 and 5 were the ones I remember liking. The random deaths in KQ1 are pretty obnoxious though. I strongly dislike the timer based beginning of 3 (where you are some sort of Sorcerer’s Apprentice). Never got far because of that. ---
**Author:** ![yrface](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/yrface/32/11793_2.png) [@yrface](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/yrface)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/20 "2017-10-07T12:43:33Z")
I don’t remember if I played that one. KQ5 was the first one I actually owned. The other ones I only got to play at a friend’s house. That kind of made me even more obsessed with them though. I remember really liking King’s Quest VI too. But once they went full Disney with the art in the next one, I checked out. ---
**Author:** ![PiecesOfKate](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forums.thimbleweedpark.com/piecesofkate/32/93_2.png) [@PiecesOfKate](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/u/PiecesOfKate)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807/21 "2017-10-07T13:02:33Z")
> [@yrface](#): > > Even though Ron is right about having to fight with the text parser and that it only recognizes a limited amount of verbs, it still seemed amazing to me at the time. Yeah. I liked the openness of it, too - that you could walk into a new area and type ‘look around’ and it gave you a little description of the surroundings. While I’ve slowly come to appreciate a verb UI I still like the freedom of a text parser and that you’re not restricted to specific verbs and objects. It makes it more challenging but I liked that. [Next page](https://forums.thimbleweedpark.com/t/which-sierra-games-do-you-like/1807.md?page=2)