WARNING: dangerous topic (politics!)

Ahem… Where is the dislike button when you need it?
And why not reintroduce death penalty? Things like that are strongly against Human Rights. The goal of the punishment is to teach humans, not to maim them.

Or are we back at the primitive law: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth?

What do you Indians have against Pakistan?

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My turn.

I will spawn my fantasies on being a Prime Minister in Italy later (these days are a real mess).

Instead, if I were the Prime Minister (or better, the President) of the USA, I would take the risk to change the mentality about the weapons.
One of the first things that I’d do, it would be to ban the weapons/ammo shops.

To get a weapon must be difficult, and not for everyone.

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Please forgive me, but I didn’t understand what it means.
What is a syllabus, and why this change affects you, as a student (you are at your last year, aren’t you?)

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Nope. I still have to complete 11th and 12th… Then around 5 years in college…
Syllabus is the lessons you have to read from the books given to you which will be there in final exam.

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Strongly put, imo, a sexual offender denounces his or her humanity… ergo the rights that go along with it.
By the way physical castration, now that would be maiming… if executed without anesthesia.

@ZakPhoenixMcKracken. I told you it would get ugly quickly… especially when you start mentioning cancellation of sensitive men’s parts :rofl:

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Yep :slight_smile: Another word for this is “curriculum”.

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Ahem, again.

I’m always very astonished on how we have become unaware of basic principles of law and human rights.
The only thing that a State can do in most European states is to take the freedom of a person to live in the society, and put him/her in a penitentiary to teach him/her where he/she made a mistake.
Every other menomation the other people represented by the State produce on that person, is not allowed, and MUST be not allowed.

This is a core principle of modern laws, and Human Rights.

This has been one of the most important steps of civilization, with roots in the eighteenth century (just to mention the great contribute by Cesare Beccaria in his On crimes and punishments).

The only victory of the society is when the conscience of a person understands the nature of his mistake.

This reminds me the absurdity of lobotomization of people.

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About that, I was really impressed to know that, in Finland, the inmates have the keys of their cell.
There’s a real concept of re-education.

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This is the ideal solution, but it relies on the willingness of offenders to learn from their mistakes. If rates of reoffending are high, then some other kind of solution may be needed - to protect society.

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I’m totally against this kind of behaviour, both ideally and practically. I think it doesn’t produce any effect.

The whole history of Humankind has evolved from that to the great steps I mentioned before.

And, in fact, crime rate in advanced civilised countries is way inferior than in the past. (Don’t we let us be impressed by episodic growing, related to specific events).

I fully agree.

but… in practice they’re just way too many examples of offenders that get out because of full prisons. Get penitentiary leave (just read the news what happened in Belgium yesterday).
I can’t shake the feeling that really evil people are exploiting the righteousness (naivety?) of the others.
Funny you mention depriving people from their freedom. Jails are usually target nr 1 for Human Rights activists.
Also locking up someone isn’t very beneficial for improving usually. It all depends on the crimes etc. but just "ok sit in this cell for 2 years and then you’re forgiven and ‘healed’ " is just BS.

Can we please have some statistics about sexual crimes in Belgium in the past years? With context analysis?

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anything above 0 is a shame to humanity.

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If reoffending rates were high, then such a solution would reduce the number of victims of sexual offences.

Yes, let’s see some stats :slight_smile:

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Do you have any evidence to support this statement?

I’ll do some examples. In Italy Matteo Salvini, a politician of the far right (with fascist and racist behaviour) in spite of every statistics, claims that we need more protection, more security. If you read statistics, homicides are in constant reduction, thanks to savvy politics of prevention (and also what Zak said about gun’s detention, which is difficult in Italy and requires to be renewed every year and not to be in contrast with psychologic wealth of the subject).

But still, he talks to the belly of people, not their Reason.

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No, I don’t. It is just a theoretical statement :slight_smile:

@gffp If you were Salvini the Prime Minister, what would you do to reset (or reduce even more) sexual crimes?
I don’t want an answer at any cost, but only if you have some solution in your mind.

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ok… since you’re getting obsessed with the castration thing and choose to ignore the equal pay thing (how ironic), let’s consider my new bill proposal:
At traffic lights, ALL cars have a red light and all pedestrians and bicycles get a green light in both directions at the same time.
Then all pedestrians/bikes get red light while the cars have their green lights (on turn for each direction obviously). That should reduce the number of deaths by trucks turning right (or left in the UK) and running over bikes/pedestrians.

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That’s a lovely idea. Except it’s a call that needs to be made in congress. And congress is run by lobbyist. So yeah, good luck.

OK, but how many citizens really want to get rid of weapons?
If their were more than just a vague ambition, if they were absolutely determined to ban the weapons… there’s no way the lobbies could prevent them.