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The (adventure) games on sale thread


#203

I am FireFlower Games, a proprietor of carefully selected downloadable, DRM-free games for Windows, Mac and Linux worldwide. I love games and am based in Malmö, Sweden. I’m not an artificial intelligence!

Interesting. Might give it a go.


#204

Don’ forget that in case you are talking about this particular game: It’s a Windows AGS game.

Most of their games I already have on GOG, but Ankh was one I’ve found only there (also Windows only).


#205

Linux is just my regular desktop OS, if that’s what you’re worried about. :wink:

Unless you mean AGS games are something to watch out for?


#206

No no, Just an additional information to judge its compatibility (btw. should you play it using Wine tell us how it went; I’ve actually found comments the MacOS version of AGS being not that great so maybe AGS+Wine is better anyway than a native port?).


#207

Well, you made me curious. I installed demo in Wine (3.0.3, so stable but outdated) and it all seems to work flawlessly as far as I can tell. Here are the game settings:

If I were really curious, I’d probably try this, too. There seems to no a need in any case.

I do have some minor qualms like not being able to Alt + Enter between fullscreen and windowed mode as most modern games allow, but given the AGS setup application I would image that has nothing to do with Wine. The same applies to there not being an apparent pause function, since it’s not like anything is mentioned on the topic in the manual either.


#208

Good to know.
Yeah, this all sounds like shortcomings of AGS, not Wine.

A native build may not be so easy for all games since some AGS games use plugins which often are Windows-only.
E.g. Maniac Mansion Deluxe used a Windows-only plugin for the flashlight.


#209

Since it looked really easy I decided to build the Debian package and it took less than two minutes. Alas, it looks like if you were serious about it you’d quickly get into some serious versioning trouble:

~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Captain Disaster DEMO in Death Has a Million Stomping Boots$ ags
Adventure Game Studio v3.99 Interpreter
Copyright (c) 1999-2011 Chris Jones and 2011-2018 others
ACI version 3.99.99.0

Initializing allegro
Initializing game data
Located game data file: /home/frans/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Captain Disaster DEMO in Death Has a Million Stomping Boots/cd-dhamsb-demo-1-3-0.exe
Opened game data file: game28.dta
Game data version: 47
Compiled with: 
This game format is not supported by the engine (game compiled with: ).

It cannot be run.Loading game failed with error:
Format version is too old; this engine can only run games made with AGS 3.4.1 or later
Required format version: 47, supported 48 - 49.

The game files may be incomplete, corrupt or from unsupported version of AGS.

I could just build whichever tag hadn’t yet dropped support for v47, which might be 3.3 as opposed to the current 3.4 range of releases? But managing that would be hellish. (And unnecessary given how Wine seems to have no trouble at all.)

On another note, it looks like someone is working on (legacy) AGS support for ScummVM: https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/AGS

PS Apparently building tag v.3.3.5.11 or v.3.4.0.16 isn’t something you can just do either:

$ git checkout v.3.3.5.11
Note: checking out 'v.3.3.5.11'.

[…]

HEAD is now at c8e6fc4c Manual: updated to 3.3.5.11
frans@frenzie-desktop:~/src/ags$ fakeroot debian/rules binary
dh binary --parallel
dh: Compatibility levels before 9 are deprecated (level 8 in use)

Good news though, at least for now that’s really easily fixed by changing this file from 8 to 9.

Don’t forget to clean first:

fakeroot debian/rules clean

And now we have a v.3.4.0.16 that runs the game natively.

It’s worse than the Wine version in this quick test. It’s basically exactly the same, except in Wine the audio works properly out the box, and I can still more or less Alt-Tab. In Wine the game still doesn’t quite seem to want to do it, but you can still Alt-Tab. The mouse arguably controls more smoothly in Wine, but it’s a bit iffy either way, perhaps due to the ultra-low resolution thing. Here’s the log running the Linux ags executable in the data folder for the curious:

~/.wine/drive_c/Progrgs Files (x86)/Captain Disaster DEMO in Death Has a Million Stomping Boots$ ags
Adventure Game Studio v3.4 Interpreter
Copyright (c) 1999-2011 Chris Jones and 2011-2017 others
ACI version 3.4.0.16

Initializing allegro
Reading configuration
Looking for game data file
Game data file: /home/frans/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Captain Disaster DEMO in Death Has a Million Stomping Boots/cd-dhamsb-demo-1-3-0.exe

Game data version: 47
Requested engine version: 3.4.0.16
Setting up window
Initializing TTF renderer
Initializing mouse: number of buttons reported is 3
Checking memory
Initializing speech vox
Speech sample file found and initialized.
Initializing audio vox
Audio vox found and initialized.
Initializing keyboard
Install timer
Initialize sound drivers
Trying digital driver ID: 'Auto' (0xffffffff), MIDI driver ID: 'Auto' (0xffffffff)
ALSA lib rawmidi_hw.c:233:(snd_rawmidi_hw_open) open /dev/snd/midiC0D0 failed: No such file or directory

Unable to initialize your audio hardware.
[Problem: DIGMID patch set not found]
Installed digital driver ID: 'ALSA' (0x414c5341), MIDI driver ID: 'None' (0x0)
Install exit handler
Initialize path finder library
Load game data
Game data version: 47
Requested engine version: 3.4.0.16
Game GUI version: 118
Captain Disaster
Checking for disk space
Initializing MOD/XM player
Initializing resolution settings
Game native resolution: 320 x 200 (32 bit)
Device display resolution: 3840 x 2160
Game settings: windowed = no, screen def: max, screen size: 0 x 0, match device ratio: yes, game scale: max_round
Using graphics factory: DX5
Created graphics driver: Allegro/DX5
Supported gfx modes (32-bit): 
	640x480;640x480;640x480;720x400;720x480;720x480;720x576;800x600;
	800x600;1024x768;1024x768;1152x864;1280x720;1280x720;1280x720;1280x800;
	1280x1024;1280x1024;1440x900;1600x900;1600x1200;1680x1050;1920x1080;1920x1080;
	1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1200;
	2048x1280;2560x1440;3840x2160;
Supported gfx modes (24-bit): 
	640x480;640x480;640x480;720x400;720x480;720x480;720x576;800x600;
	800x600;1024x768;1024x768;1152x864;1280x720;1280x720;1280x720;1280x800;
	1280x1024;1280x1024;1440x900;1600x900;1600x1200;1680x1050;1920x1080;1920x1080;
	1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1080;1920x1200;
	2048x1280;2560x1440;3840x2160;
Requested gfx filter: StdScale
Using gfx filter: StdScale
Switching to graphics mode
Attempting to find nearest supported resolution for screen size 3840 x 2160 (32-bit) fullscreen
Attempt to switch gfx mode to 3840 x 2160 (32-bit) fullscreen; game frame: 3200 x 2000
Succeeded. Using gfx mode 3840 x 2160 (32-bit) fullscreen
	filter dest (320, 80, 3519, 2079 : 3200 x 2000), render dest (320, 80, 3519, 2079 : 3200 x 2000)
Preparing graphics mode screen
Initializing colour conversion
Mouse control: on, base: 1.000000, speed: 1.000000
Check for preload image
Initialize sprites
Set up screen
Initialize game settings
Cannot open translation: default.tra
Prepare to start game
Mouse confined: (320,80)-(3519,2079) (3200x2000)
Audio is processed on the main thread
Checking replay status
Engine initialization complete
Starting game
***** ENGINE HAS SHUTDOWN

#210

Even FoxTail is currently on sale at GOG - even though it’s still in development. Have the developers run out of money, perhaps? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


#211

I’d try v3.4.0 since this is the version used by the developers.

Edit:

Oh so you have actually tried the exact version already!

ScummVM integration would be nice! But we’d still have problems with plugins and also the format issues you’ve discovered. Maybe multiple AGS versions would need to be integrated (as with SCUMM etc.)?


#212

Last update on GOG was on 2018-06-01. It can take quite some time with small developers (as I know from many Kickstarter projects)…

We are now waiting for completion of Kentucky Route Zero for > 2 years or so.


#213

But why would they do a sale before the development is completed? So many people interested in this game will own it in advance, anyway. However, I doubt that this won’t decrease the revenue after the final release.
Well, personally, I have been waiting for this game to be completed. I even would have paid the full price then, but, now I noticed that sale, so I’m going to think twice.


#214

FoxTail wasn’t expensive to begin with.
But even worse: Why are they giving Full Throttle away for free?


#215

I think, everyone who loves Full Throttle already owns it. It’s more than 20 years old already, in contrast to FoxTail.


#216

Every day you will find people who have never heard of it and may love it, and every day now people are born.
Even of those old ones many won’t have heard of the remaster yet.

But I’m fine with it when they want to give it away and promote the adventure game genre.

Regarding FoxTail it sounds plausible they are indeed in need of money. But the current discount is -45% plus a small base price to begin with. They won’t get rich for sure.


#217

Yeah those older tags work. But like I said, the Wine experience is actually better than native for me at the moment. I’m sure I could get the sound working, but I’m not quite that curious.

I only own the remaster. (Since release.)

Btw, is this also the thread to say that Humble Bundle is giving away a free LEGO game? At least some of them are cute little 3D platformers. The difficulty is basically zero but they’re a fun take on the source material.


#218

Yeah, I think Wine is great!

A lot of those LEGO games support coop and are great for playing with non-gamers or younger kids!


Free game of the day
#219

Yeah, I played the original LEGO Star Wars with a friend. :slight_smile:

(We were 18 or 19 at the time, so slightly older kids?)


#220

Yay, Forgotto Anne was released on GOG! Including Forgotton Anne Collector’s Upgrade and GOG connect until 20th of December.

It’s currently 30% off.


#221

So it’s a platformer?


#222

It’s an Adventure-Indie-Action-Female Protagonist-Platformer-Casual-Story rich-Puzzle-Platformer-2D-Atmospheric-Singleplayer-Great Soundtrack-Music-Anime-Hand-drawn-Cartoony game.