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I think get back has stronger implications where to get back to but come back mostly means to come back to the person that says it.

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The latter isn’t a Beatles song.

DAMN, beaten by Milan by a split second!

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I saw you writing and thought ā€œdamn, I gotta hurry up, I know heĀ“ll make that same joke!ā€ :smile:

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It was addressed in the old FAQ by Ron on 2016-01-11:

It’s TWP, although I kind of like MM:TNG

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When I must use the genitive?

  1. This is the Ron’s game
  2. This is the Ron game
  3. These are the game’s options
  4. These are the game options
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No the in the first two examples(unless the game in example 2 is about Ron himself).

The last two are okay.

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Instead of the first two, you would say ā€œthis is Ron’s gameā€.
You can also say ā€œthe options of the gameā€, but not ā€œthe game of Ronā€.

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He can, but he“d have to wear a toga and a laurel wreath while doing so.

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So, since I started a huge discussion about this on twitter (you may not have noticed, but your brain did) I would like to ask:

Are books with intentionally uncut edges (called ā€œdeckled edgesā€) very common in the UK and/or the US?

You mean this?

I’ve never seen it and I bought a lot of English books (but mostly specialist books).

Did it? Have I subconsciously referenced it?

I’ve not really come across that. Is it mainly on hardbacks? The most I’ve noticed is when the printers haven’t trimmed the pages properly and there’s still an untrimmed corner left or something.

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Yup.

Ah, no. :slight_smile: Forget it.

See that“s what I instantly thought when I opened my copy of Norse Mythology (pictured above) yesterday. But Neil Gaiman and others on twitter say it“s intentional, and a google search also confirmed that this is a thing.

I still find it funny that Neil Gaiman replied faster than amazon would have (and they might even have asked me to return it!).

Trivia: the singer guitarist of The Equals (who also wrote Baby Come Back) is the same guy of the 80s hit ā€œGimme Hope Jo’annaā€

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Yikes! My childhood. Yikes! An Earworm! Noooooo…

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actually that wasn’t true… I’ve corrrected it

He does sing backing vocals and the "all right"s, though

ā€œSLU Students Learn Italian Playing Video Gamesā€
https://www.slu.edu/news/2018/april/learning-italian-through-gaming.php

We learned new languages with adventure games back in the 80s… :slight_smile:

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[…] ā€œBy the mid-1980s, he was playing textual adventures, and soon realized his English was improving rapidly as he played.ā€

As it turned out.

Funny, he played Assassin’s Creed in the classroom to teach Italian!

I have learnt several Japanese words by watching animes with English or Italian subtitles.

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Not only that, but Italian Renaissance literature…

I’m not sure how much ā€œhistorical accuracyā€ there really is in the setting. Or how useful it would be for any book that you’re studying.

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I share similar concerns about such use of videogames.
Well, certainly having fun helps to learn a language, as the associate professor says. Also for modern generations, they are used to huge virtual representations of reality. And when it comes to how a city was six centuries ago, well, only maybe art historians and architects have the ability to recreate those sceneries in their mind starting from original documents.
So I think it is just the fascination, not the historical accuracy of the settings. But the fact is that narration of the game emotionally brings you into the setting, that is what I think that matters.
A lot of movies are inaccurate, too.
I remember my music teacher of the middle school used Amadeus from Nilos Forman to get us into history of music, and that’s a pretty historically inaccurate ā€œbiographicalā€ movie (is probably not a biographical movie at all, it’s more a movie about art).
I think it is all about how he uses those games (not giving them too much importance) and if he is capable of explaining where they are inaccurate. Probably it’s not OK for an academic level of knowledge, but it can be useful.

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At school our teachers showed us Mr Bean shorts (they obviously hadn“t watched beforehand) to teach us english (!), because my teachers were idiots.

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