I completely missed that.
Never mind that was in the X-Files thread where I linked to that netflix documentary about sleep paralysis
No that is among other things about lucid dreaming.
So what is that book? Is it on audible, amazon etc?
Oh right, yeah. I remember now.
It’s called Why We Sleep. I think I mentioned it before. I got it on Audible but it’s on Amazon too.
Sometimes, especially when I was younger.
In Newcastle there used to be a French language group every Tuesday evening, at a place called Café De Vie. A few years ago the café closed and the group met up somewhere else in Newcastle. I had completely forgotten about it until my friend reminded me recently.
This morning I dreamed that @Someone, @milanfahrnholz and @PiecesOfKate were having a discussion here about restarting the French group in that café. I remember asking if they were planning to reopen Café De Vie on Tuesday evenings only, or start up a café that would be open all week.
In real life, the building is already occupied, but I guess it wasn’t in my dream.
I love the French language I’ve retained a lot of it from my A level actually. I can speak it especially well when drunk.
What did the French group do? Did they just practise speaking it?
And where were you in this dream?
I was just watching the discussion taking place in the forums. It was a very short dream.
The French group would just practice speaking the language. There were no set topics or anything. It was a really nice environment
Well, that’s quite interesting.
I’ve experienced it surely once, maybe twice.
I remember clearly one episode, in which I was on my sofa. It was a daytime nap, it was a very stressful period of my life. I fell into a deep sleep, just as if I had taken sleeping drugs.
I completely losed the cognition of time. I woke up supine. It was about to get dark, and I wasn’t accustomed to that, since I started sleeping when the sun was still up. I was supine, with my hands on my stomach, as in a cadaveric position. My hearing was muffled, but I could see clearly. I felt tingling in my body, especially hands, lips, feet. I felt a very strange thermal sensation, as if my limbs were very cold and very hot simultaneously. My head was slightly dizzy. Just a little bit, while the thermal sensations and tinglings were strong. The strongest sensation of all was the sensation of being uncapable to move. I tried to move my hands and feet, but not with much conviction, since I felt that effort was quite useless. For the same reason I didn’t try to talk… too much effort for a likely disappointing result. No hallucinations, no other dream elements. I was, like, still sleeping with my body while my brain and eyes were awake.
I wasn’t scared. I don’t know why, since I had never heard about sleep paralysis before. I simply felt it was a transitory condition, and I immediately associated it to my being tired and stressed.
So I wasn’t scared, oddily I must say, since the sensation described are quite eerie. The situation was very strange, since it made me feel both uneasy and, somehow… good.
Experimenting on myself such uncommon sensations was quite satisfying… I felt it like an experience.
When I finally regained all my functions, I felt very weel, as if this experience had a catartic meaning to me.
So, to sum up: I experienced it once, maybe twice: I don’t remember the other episode, but when this episode happened I had the sensation it wasn’t the first time.
I felt strange and uneasy, but unexpectedly good.
I’d welcome to experience that again, as long as I know that is harmless to me.
Let me add something I find interesting: I’m very fascinated by all of this thread, and I envy all of you since you dream (and remember) so much. To say the truth, probably you all have some slight sleeping disease, since I’ve the feeling that in this small group of “hard dreamers” there’s also a very high prevalence of insomnia, not to mention an incidence of recurrent sleeping paralysis which is incredibly high, at least according to Wikipedia.
I’ve been thinking the same. I seem to be the only one who hasn’t experienced it here.
What you’ve described, @Ema, reminds me of something I learned how to do from my mum’s relaxation app. There’s a voice that guides you through it, but now that I know how it works, I just do it myself at my own pace.
You lie on your back with your arms and legs straight, close your eyes, and take some deep breaths. Then you focus on relaxing each part of your body one at a time - your head, neck, shoulders, chest, arms and legs, in that order. As you do this, your arms and legs especially feel tingly, and somehow you feel lighter. If you try to move a little, you’ll find it’s harder to do so.
The final step - and the voice explains it much better - is to slowly let go, counting down from ten to zero. Then you feel even more deeply relaxed, and you can stay in that state for as long as you like. When you’re finished, you very gradually make little movements, to “wake up” your body again. At the end you feel really refreshed.
Later on I’ll find out the name of the app, but the process is probably described in other places too.
Well, we all dream while sleeping. Check out this article on the site of the Veronesi Foundation:
“All. Some do not remember, some remember a lot, some even have a photographic memory. About three years ago we did a neurophysiological research to identify the neural bases of the dream, comparing those who remember and those who did not. We have seen that, in those who later will remember, is a specific area of the brain, the frontal cortex, with a specific electrical frequency, while in those who will then remember very little the brain area involved was the right temporal cortex. Therefore it can be predicted from the electroencephalographic activity measured in the sleeper if upon awakening he will remember or not.”
And even if you don’t remeber so well, you can exercise this ability, as Guga said. It’s similar for me. I don’t remember often, but when it happens, if I stay in bed and go back to the dream, I fix it in the memory. The more you do that, the better result you get.
I don’t find consistent evidence for what you say here.
or here. What does it mean “recurring”? How can it be measured? It means you experience it more than once within a month (for example) or two times in a year?
“Between 8% and 50% of people experience sleep paralysis at some time.”
" Approximately 36% of the general population that experiences isolated sleep paralysis is likely to develop it between 25 and 44 years of age." http://n.neurology.org/content/52/6/1194
For me, I experienced it in a particular condtion: the hot quiet of an empty house in the summer nights (two times in a week, but only that week).
I don’t think from what we’ve read here from some forumers we can jump to conclusion of a recurring sleep paralysis. But If that would happen more frequently, maybe it should be investigated.
Let me say (for insomnia) that it is NOT a good habit to browse the internet (these forum included) while we can’t sleep. It’s better to shut down all devices (smartphones included) a little while before and maybe trying to read that book that we wanted so much to finish, but was a little boring…Prima di dormire spegnete tablet, pc, smartphone, iPhone! | Fondazione Umberto Veronesi
I don’t know about the others, but I never had insomnia. Sometimes I might know I won’t fall asleep soon, but I never had actual insomnia like spending a whole night awake trying to sleep, and when I have difficulties, there’s usually caffeine involved
If there’s one thing that I don’t like about my sleep is that I need time to fall asleep. Even if I don’t have that feeling of “I won’t be sleeping soon”, I need at least 15 minutes of lying in bed and relaxing. My wife, for example, falls asleep in like five seconds. Sometimes we go to bed, we say goodnight, TEN *BEEPING* SECONDS PASS and she says “I can’t sleep”. What the… I didn’t even think of sleeping in ten seconds, she already decided she has problems.
So I now have another question: how long does it take to fall asleep? Am I the strange one, or my wife is? I mean, if we have to take a plane, she usually falls asleep even before they boarded every passenger!
I’m the same as you. I’d say it takes me about half an hour to get to sleep most nights, sometimes longer. I think that’s why it easily turns into insomnia. All I have to do is tune into a noise and then it’s impossible.
I have no idea what exactly is wrong with me that I find the thought of a british person drunkenly speaking french super cute.
And what if a drunken German person speaks perfectly English?
Then I´m impressed that that´s even happening.
My friend used to join in too, but she doesn’t know much French and would just repeatedly yell, ‘IL Y A QUATRE POULETS DANS LA RUE!’
Amazing. Most people still try to figure out why one of them crossed the road.
I could add “Sur le pont d’Avignon” … (but I don’t know if that helps…)
We used to sing that in french class…and after cause we couldn´t shake it.